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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Sea bass, Jul 19, 2012.

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  1. TomK

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  2. Hoosier205

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    Tremendous films...in SD.
     
  3. TomK

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    Whatever...at least the films are watchable now when they were not before.
     
  4. n3vino

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    Leon...
    I think that mean that you'll receive 480I, 720p, or 1080I, depending on what the channel uses? If so, then your set is upscaling to it's native format. Try setting the box to output only in your sets native resolution and see how that works. If your set is 720P, set the box to send 720P, if 1080P, set to 1080I. YOur set will upconvert to 1080P. I don't know if it will send 1080P.

    See if the box or your set will do a better job of upscaling.
     
  5. Hoosier205

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    Watchable? If I settled for mediocre, I would have purchased an LCD. If I settled for mediocre, I would not have upgraded to Blu-ray. If settled for mediocre, I would have Dish.
     
  6. Mike Bertelson

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    Let's keep this civil and on topic please...I'm just sayin'

    Mike
     
  7. fjames

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    Had a thought last night. I almost never watch DVD anymore, but got one from Blockbuster that they only had available on DVD (there is a BD) and I really wanted to see (Dogtooth, if you care.) Picture was much more pleasing than anything I've seen on TCMHD. Still obviously an upconvert, but a much sharper image (and no obvious artifacts that you usually see on DVD upconverted in the home.)

    I was pondering that, when it struck me that the softness of the TCMHD picture is extremely consistent. So I'm speculating that there should be more variation in image characteristics, and if there isn't, they're doing "something." One possibility is downconverting, which is, I've read, more problematic than upconverting. That doesn't make sense of course when they're using a SD source, but who knows what the workflow is, everything might get jammed into the same stream so to speak.

    No matter my speculation as to why, it seems weird that I can throw a DVD onto a nothing special home system and get an obviously better picture than TCMHD.
     
  8. georule

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    As far as I'm concerned, the real standard is "does it make a difference in whether I'll watch the channel or not?".

    For this house, the resounding answer for adding TCMHD has been "Yes!". We've tried to watch D*'s SD version of the channel in the past (a 65" HDTV and a 60" HDTV here), and just couldn't hack how bad the quality is.

    We've watched at least four movies (very enjoyably!) since TCMHD went live, and between two DVR's have another 10 or so scheduled for the next two weeks (out to the end of the current DVR schedule).

    The only example I've seen so far that was "too bad for me to watch" was a 1931 Barbara Stanwyck movie that was just too muddy to watch, and no doubt the problem was in the original.

    The wife is somewhat less picky about such things, and even she couldn't watch the SD version. I practically won't watch anything on D*'s SD. . . the only exception being Doctor Who, muttering and complaining the entire time. There was one more exception for Mad Men, but that's since been addressed with D* adding AMCHD. I wouldn't even watch Breaking Bad, but instead waited for Blu-ray's after the season (but I'm caught up now, and watching Season 5 as it airs in HD).

    However, both of us are quite satisfied with TCMHD as being on the right side of the "Yes, I'll watch it" bright-line. If they make it even better later on, great.
     
  9. paulman182

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    Many of the films on TCM are not available from any other source, not even standard DVD.

    How do you view those movies? Attend classic movie festivals in LA or NYC?
     
  10. Hoosier205

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    TCM is betting on viewers deciding that their non-HD HD channel is good enough for as long as they can get by with it.
     
  11. Hoosier205

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    Many of the films on TCM have available HD masters that can be used for broadcast. If the TCM HD channel in France can show American classic films in HD...then so can the the U.S. TCM HD. They have chosen not to, even two years after their launch.
     
  12. Carl Spock

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    First, I reject your mediocre label. The best transfers I've seen on TCM HD were far from mediocre. Just go upthread and see the raves for Forbidden Planet, and two of them were by posters who owned an HD version of the movie (one of those was my review).

    Beyond that, it depends on how much of a fan of the movie you are, or maybe the genre. A lot of movies that are on TCM are only on TCM. I've watched many a movie where I was more into the story than the picture quality.

    I will easily admit to being an HD snob. I will pass on watching movies because they are not in HD. But I also like classic movies and vintage movie genres. I like westerns. A lot of folks upthread have commented on the John Wayne marathon on August 1. Three of the best westerns ever are going to be broadcast back to back to back: Red River, The Searchers and Rio Bravo. I wouldn't have watched these movies on TCM SD. I will watch them on TCM HD. Only one of these movies, The Searchers, is currently available on Blu-ray for a reasonable price. I'd rather watch them on TCM HD than not watch them at all.
     
  13. Hoosier205

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    That's fine. TCM HD is good enough for some folks. I won't settle for mediocre. I doubt TCM will change their ways anytime soon.
     
  14. Carl Spock

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    ^ How do you know they aren't planning on a regular HD version for the future? Given the Turner networks early and broad commitment to HD, I'd think that is more likely than not.

    Are they betting they can get away with this for now? Absolutely. Will I be grateful when they switch to a full HD version of the channel? Certainly. Will I watch and enjoy what we have now? Unquestionably.
     
  15. Hoosier205

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    Given how long they've had to get it done already and how many people are willing to settle for what they offer now...I'm not holding my breath.
     
  16. Sea bass

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    Thanks, native mode is working great for me. This channel looks great on my tv. I just wondered if others changed the settings if they would see better pq.
     
  17. coota

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    This is somewhat off topic but does TCM edit their movies?
     
  18. Hoosier205

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    No.
     
  19. Alan Gordon

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    First of all, most of the movies on TCM-HD look far better here than an upconverted DVD...

    Second of all, there's been some debate that TCM is using HD masters for some of their films, and then downconverting them, whereas others are SD upconverted.

    That would explain some of the differences in quality...

    ~Alan
     
  20. Hoosier205

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    They are not down-coverting. They are upconverting.
     
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