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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Sea bass, Jul 19, 2012.

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  1. tonyd79

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    We understand your view. Now how about stopping trying to ruin everyone else's enjoyment. It gets you nowhere and will not change anything.

    Try this instead. Face wind. Unzip pants. Urinate. Same effect as repeated posts here.
     
  2. john262

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    I don't know what others are seeing, but on my 46" Vizio I can surf back and forth between TCM SD and TCM HD and to my eyes TCM HD is much sharper. So even if it is merely upconverted, since it looks better to me shouldn't I be happy about it?
     
  3. georule

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    I think you should decide whether you're happy about it. Not listen to someone else tell you why you should or shouldn't be happy about it.

    I'm happy about it, but I didn't ask anyone to tell me first if I should be.
     
  4. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    No! You should be miserable and complain bitterly!!:D

    Yes, only one or two aren't pleased with the big improvement in PQ over a short week or two ago. Perhaps a glass half empty thing; who knows? I am enjoying TCM for the first time.
     
  5. MysteryMan

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    Still, upconverted would be a improvement over SD.
     
  6. elvisotisc

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    TCM super sharp on my Mitsubishi 65' set with sharp edge. The old classics never looked better!
     
  7. mitchflorida

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    This thread reminds me of an audiophile who is furious that music recorded in the 30s and 40s can't sound like today's modern digital sound. It can't happen.

    If something was filmed using very old film technology there is no way to miraculously "upgrade" it to modern HD quality picture. You can massage it a little bit, but never get it that much better.


    On a different note, I wish TCM would start colorizing some of the old pirate movies of the 1940s, like the Sea Hawk. Hard to watch that in black and white.
     
  8. joed32

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    Nooooo! that would be awful. Colorization is evil.
     
  9. tonyd79

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    Please let that be sarcasm.
     
  10. Hoosier205

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    There are so many things wrong with your post.

    • Audiophiles would never get mad about that. Audiophiles would want music from the 30's and 40's to sounds as it was intended, not modern digital elements. While both audiophiles and videophiles strive for quality, but accuracy as well.
    • Those films that you suggest were, "filmed using very old film technology" far exceed modern HD broadcast quality or even Blu-ray quality. A classic film is not up-converted and manipulated to reach current HD levels.
    • The colorization of black and white films is despised.
     
  11. fleckrj

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    I mostly agree.

    Audiophiles want music to sound as it was intended. The pops and hisses of old recordings, however, were not intended - they were just artifacts of the technology. Many audiophiles actually embrace the artifacts that were introduced by the vacuum tube technology, although I contend that the extra "warmth" was not intended - it is just another artifact.

    Some old film does exceed modern HD broadcast quality, but there are others that have deteriorated and are no longer what they were when they were new. Like the pops and hisses of old audio recordings, I also contend that the grain in old film was not intended - it is just another artifact.

    Colorization of B&W movies should be outlawed.
     
  12. lparsons21

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    It sure beats the hell out of TCM in SD by a mile! :)

    I'll let the 'experts' (defined as former drips under pressure) argue all the finer techie points to their hearts content while I enjoy what I have.
     
  13. harsh

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    It appears that Hoosier205 has no sources that can be cited or otherwise linked to.
     
  14. Hoosier205

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    Harsh...that it has already been done. Long ago. It is common knowledge and has been since long before this discussion began here.
     
  15. Stuart Sweet

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    Please take private discussions to private message. If it begins to seem like this thread has devolved into nothing but personal attacks, I will close it after issuing infractions to all involved parties.
     
  16. harsh

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    What forum or blog do we have to search to find this link? Someone (other than you) offered a link to the HDTV subforum menu of AVSForum as proof. That's closer but it doesn't lead to a post (or link to a statement elsewhere) from someone who speaks for TCM 'fessing up (as you insist that they have) about the sourcing of their content.

    You offer post after post of HQ video and audio snobbery and it is burying the meaningful content.
     
  17. Mike Bertelson

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    Since no one seems to be able to find the long ago cited sources could you please help out and provide them?

    Mike
     
  18. Laxguy

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    Totally agree with first two paragraphs, but here's a great idea that'll never be implemented:

    Let colorization begin! But have a setting on the TV (and the DIRECTV® receiver for legacy TVs) that'd remove the RGB info for those who choose to watch in its near pristine state. Then everyone would be happy. (Except the usual suspects.)
     
  19. Hoosier205

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    It was already posted in this thread. Folks can refer to that or seek out the many discussions on this topic elsewhere since TCM HD was released in June of 2009. TCM up-converts for their HD channel and plan on native HD at some point in the future.
     
  20. Laxguy

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    C'mon. Pony up! You can either specify the link, or not. Or are you just choosing to be, uh, controversial, in not posting it?
     
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