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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Sea bass, Jul 19, 2012.

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  1. Jul 21, 2012 #81 of 286
    acmdude

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    Yes and Technicolor, which I believe you're describing, not only gave vibrant colors but aged much better than movies shot in other processes.
     
  2. Jul 21, 2012 #82 of 286
    TBoneit

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    So what you are saying is that it was a waste of time and capacity to give the channel a huge jump in image quality?

    I have watched the TCM HD channel and it is very watchable.

    Do you also not watch Fox TV because it isn't in 180i? Only that lousy 720P.

    Do you also not watch DVDs which are 720 by 480 resolution, even lower than 720P?

    Content, content, content, content, Not visual sharpness.

    That is one of my gripes with modern movies, they seem to worry more about the special effects than the plot.
     
  3. Jul 21, 2012 #83 of 286
    tonyd79

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    Again, if you weren't TOLD it was upconverts, why would you complain? The PQ is pretty much indistinguishable from channels that provide "real" HD. In fact, it is better than most.

    Considering TCM has no "original content" that would probably be true. Older movies can look older. But it is a relative thing.

    I did not mean it to be condescending. I meant it to be jovial. Sorry that did not get across. From what I have seen, ION looks like reruns from USA and other cable outlets. Not my cup of tea but it stands for itself. Actually, ION has changed its format and programming so often, who knows what the heck it is? We know what TCM is. Uncut, uncensored movies shown in OAR with a wide range of date, quality, topic. Their library is vast and they show it all. TCM HD is a huge improvement in picture and sound quality over TCM SD. That is all that matters.
     
  4. Jul 21, 2012 #84 of 286
    tonyd79

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    I dunno. I'd have to see TWC's rebroadcast. Maybe it is not that good. I can compare TCM HD to SD on both DirecTV and the SD from Fios. Huge, huge, huge upgrade in PQ and SOUND quality (that everyone ignores).

    Watching the Green Hornet serial right now. Very clean.
     
  5. Jul 21, 2012 #85 of 286
    charlie460

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    I have to disagree here. The picture looks relatively soft compared to true HD content to my eye.

    However,

    This I agree with, and it is certainly a large improvement.
     
  6. Jul 21, 2012 #86 of 286
    sigma1914

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    charlie... I see your point. I'm not into old (before 1975ish) movies, but there's a large number of people who are.

    I'm glad those who like old movies got it.
     
  7. Jul 21, 2012 #87 of 286
    Sea bass

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    Amen! I never really watched this channel, but I now have 3 movies picked out of the guide to record, mainly thanks to the posts I've read here. Thanks all:)
     
  8. Jul 21, 2012 #88 of 286
    tonyd79

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    Depends on what you watch. Some old stuff will be better than others. But AMC does "trueHD" and it is far worse.
     
  9. Jul 21, 2012 #89 of 286
    narrod

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    This channel was at the top of my list for HD. I had seen it on Dish and cable systems and saw how much better it was than DirecTv's SD feed. Rollerball looks pretty darn good. I love so many old black and white, 4x3 films and they are much closer to the look of originals. Very happy.
     
  10. Jul 21, 2012 #90 of 286
    fjames

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    You keep saying that, but to be believable you need to qualify it with your viewing distance relative to your screen size. I sit at a mathematical minimum distance for HD plus about 4" for dog clearance, and it's obviously not HD. It looks like what I'd hope good SD would look.

    I can perch on a table behind me, adding maybe 3' to the distance, and it's tolerable - my eyes don't hurt from trying to focus on the unfocusable (is that a word?)

    Programming note: Near Dark - I forgot to check last night to verify it is the Bigelow one (her first major film as director IIRC) but if it is, and you haven't seen it, do so :) I found 3 more showings btw.
     
  11. Jul 21, 2012 #91 of 286
    tonyd79

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    I can find many supposedly true HD channels that look worse.

    I sit 8 feet from a 50 inch DLP set.

    And I never said you would think it was great HD. I only said if you dd not know, you wouldn't know.
     
  12. Jul 21, 2012 #92 of 286
    narrod

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    I sit seven feet from a 65 inch plasma and I'm quite pleased with the quality improvement over the SD feed. Things can always be better but this is magnitudes better than before.

    Perhaps my eyes aren't as sensitive as yours.
     
  13. Jul 21, 2012 #93 of 286
    fjames

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    To correlate with my distance, you'd have to be at 66" so you're right at my table perch distance :) At that distance, you'd know.

    Oh, yeah, huge improvement - I'm doing the kid in a candy store thing, keep finding stuff to watch (Tony Curtis is on the DVR as we speak). But then get frustrated by the softness, and it really does make my eyes hurt, wasn't just saying that. I'm going to try out some sharpness settings on my little video processor (never use them) and see if there's a compromise that will let me enjoy the programming, which is really something - little surprises all over the place, like a treasure hunt of cool old stuff.
     
  14. Jul 21, 2012 #94 of 286
    Barcthespark

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    Back before HD hit the market I watched a LOT of TCM, but after HD arrived and D* SD quality decreased I stopped watching TCM because it just wasn't enjoyable with such terrible PQ. Now I'm back on board and very much enjoying it again. Maybe it's not true HD, but it's definitely watchable again for me. I'm very happy they added it.

    Toshiro Mifune marathon coming in August. :)
     
  15. Jul 21, 2012 #95 of 286
    TomK

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    As I said before, I compared 'The Searchers' on TCMHD and from HDNET Movies. I really couldn't tell a big difference but those who want to nitpick can say it wasn't as good. Whatever...
     
  16. Jul 21, 2012 #96 of 286
    Alan Gordon

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    For the record, I enjoy some of the Viacom channels' programming, and am glad they're back.

    The rest are fair points, except I'd compare reality programming to the gladiatorial games! ;)

    ~Alan
     
  17. Jul 21, 2012 #97 of 286
    Alan Gordon

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    For the record, #1 is #2 (or #3 depending on how you look at it) on my list, #5 is on my list of wants as well, and to a lesser extent, #2 and #3, but #4 is no where on my list as I simply have no interest in their programming, so you can't please everyone.

    For whatever it's worth, TCM-HD was #4 (or #5 depending on how you look at things) on my list.

    ION has been airing original (to America) seasons of "Flashpoint", and has had some original movies as well... usually around Christmas time.

    I've been viewing TCM-HD for probably two weeks now, and the only movie I've seen that compares to a true HD version of it is "The Adventures Of Robin Hood." If one was sitting too far away or didn't have the best eyesight, I believe the differences between TCM-HD and the Blu-ray would be so negligible, it could be mistaken.

    I don't see how that could happen with "The Searchers" though... :confused:

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  18. Jul 21, 2012 #98 of 286
    tonyd79

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    Get within a foot of your tv. ;)
     
  19. Jul 21, 2012 #99 of 286
    Barcthespark

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    Unfortunately, this upcoming season of Flashpoint will be it's last. Bummer too, because I really love that show. It's one of my favorites.
     
  20. fjames

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    Or compare it to a good quality image :) Is HDNET Movies considered here to have good image quality? To me they are the worst of any semi or truly commercial free channels.

    It pains me when people think their opinion carries more weight than fact. There's nothing wrong with TCMHD as an upconverted SD channel. That's what it is. Pretending it's not is delusional.

    I sit just under 7' from a 64" plasma. That's where you get the best usage of an HD image combining detail resolution and viewing angle (not counting my dog allowance.) I don't have a problem at all if someone wants to sit several feet farther than is optimal, but I do have a problem if they want to discuss image quality while doing so.

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