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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 22, 2007.

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  1. mdegner

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    Newegg has an enclosure that looks like it would be a nice case to roll one's own.

    eSata, component sized, 5 drives, a little pricey for an enclosure ($440), but still less expensive than the alternative even with a few drives.

    Search for the SilverStone DS351.
     
  2. funhouse69

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    Certainly a cool looking device however it uses a Port Multiplier and doesn't have a built in RAID Card / Controller (you have to have a SIL Card in the host system as well to utilize all the drives).
     
  3. mdegner

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    It's not quite there, then, I guess. Bummer. That explains why they say it requires Windows for RAID. That built in functionality is what must make the TenBox so expensive. Thanks for the clarification.
     
  4. hasan

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    Where did you get your FAP 750's and more importantly, where and what part number did you get for the eSATA cable for the 750 to the HR20?

    The 750's have come down enough that I'm willing to give on a try. If I don't like it, I can always put it on one of my computers.
     
  5. P Smith

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    Before tell us about expenses try to find how much cost for SATA RAID controllers on the market - $50.
     
  6. BillPear

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    As asked before where did you get your FAP's that will take them back in 6-8 months?
     
  7. cartrivision

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    No, the profit margin on the Tenbox is what makes it so expensive. Self contained RAID enclosures can be found at retail prices of under $200.
     
  8. Earl Bonovich

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    Dam shame that a company can't recoup the cost of developing a new product for the market....

    How many first products by a company, are rock bottom priced?

    TenLabs is not WesternDigital or Seagate....
    Or one of these companies that mass produces cheap enclosures...


    But hey... it's your dime.
     
  9. Dr_J

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    Would putting the TenBox on top of the HR20, as depicted in the ad, cause the HR20 to overheat by blocking the vents?
     
  10. Earl Bonovich

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    I right now have:

    TenBox on top
    HR21-700 in the middle
    HR20-700 on the bottom

    I have ZERO heating issues
     
  11. 40yearfan

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    You can drive a Cadillac with all the goodies or a stripped down Chevy. The Caddy costs more, but it has a lot more conveinences, a quieter ride and better handling. Sometimes you get what you pay for.
     
  12. KurtV

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    They're certainly free to try to recoup product development costs; whether they can or not is a question the marketplace will answer.

    I think the problem that some are having with the TenBox is that it costs something like 3-5 times more than products that are functionally equivalent. That's a hefty premium for asthetics (especially when a regular external drive is an easy thing to hide) and some (possible) noise reduction. (The heat issue is a bit of a red herring as many external drives handle heat just fine either with fans or by using highly conductive case materials.)

    Regarding a couple of your earlier posts on this where you saids "You get what you pay for": Not always. Not by a long shot. There are many relatively high-priced products that deliver only marginally better performance when better at all.
     
  13. elove

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    Earl,

    How long is the Tenbox power supply cord?
     
  14. Earl Bonovich

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    The cord between the adapter and the plug... about 5ft.
    Then you have cord length between the adapter and the unit which is probably another 4-5ft (didn't measure, and it is still wound together in mysetup)
     
  15. Rich

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    You missed my point. Four HR20s, each with an FAP 750 = eight tuners and 2.6 TBs of storage. And the four FAPs only cost $1100. The four HR20s cost me a total of $260. Aggravates me that I had to lose that $260.

    As to your point concerning the company's right to recoup it's R&D money, I agree with you totally. I also have no problem with people paying sticker price for new cars. I understand that people who "overpay" for retail items help drive the prices lower, I just don't care to participate in that business plan.

    "Heck," I hope a lot of people buy the TenBox and they make enough to drop the prices. Don't forget, I need four of them.

    That is why I never bought an HD TiVo. I would have had to have four of them. With large HDs. "Heck," I want four TenBoxes.
     
  16. P Smith

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    That's the answer for _effective cooling_ - power supply moved out of box into external brick; usually the part of enclosure create own heat flow.
     
  17. Rich

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    I rented an '07 Impala a couple of months ago, and that was as disappointing an experience with a car I have had in years. In '88 I had constant access to an '85 Impala and that was a great car. How could they screw a car up so much in 22 years? Wouldn't you think they'd get better?

    I trust you have a Caddie too.
     
  18. Rich

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    Hasan, didn't I send you an email or PM detailing my purchasing methods? I've offered to give this advice freely several times and very few people have contacted me privately. I will not post the method, just know that it is perfectly legal.

    My cables are SIIG type 2. Just Google it. Lots of sites sell it at various prices. Be sure to order a long enough cable.
     
  19. jjohns

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    You also don't need to purchase a Boeing 747 to go across the street.
     
  20. hasan

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    No prior info from you, but I did find the drive and cable at newegg and they are on the way. I'll post somewhere how well it works. I wasn't looking for rock bottom best price...just a drive that would work and the right cable, and I think I found both at newegg. I'll know in a few days.

    I edited out my question, as I found the right procedure in an eSATA thread:

    1. Power down (unplug) the HR20 (I will do that after it goes dark during a menu reset)
    2. Connect the eSATA drive to the HR20, and then power up the eSATA drive
    3. Power up the HR20
     
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