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Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by RunnerFL, May 17, 2012.
Or M.A.S.H. which was only #46 in it's first year.
I know I preferred it after Trapper, Frank and Blake left.
We would have never had Seinfeld either.
I think that's a fair perspective.
Of all 9...only House is viewed here at all among 4 viewers in 3 different age categories...and it's exit was planned.
The bigger concern should be what kind of "replacements" will there be...more "reality" programming...more rehashed "been there done that" ideas....or new original concepts? Two of those three choices point to further deterioration of network viewers in the future.
BBT could have been one of them. It took a half a season for that show to get its legs and look what happened.
Maybe we should have a cancellation channel where some of these shows would get a second chance. Heck they are only about five hundred channels or so and I only watch about fifteen at the most.
It's interesting to compare the attitudes of Fox and CBS regarding scripted programming.
From its beginning, Fox "cherry picked" the two prime time hours that were the most profitable. The traditional prime time included 10:00. So Sunday through Friday from 8:00 to 11:00 ABC, CBS, and NBC have 18 prime hours. Fox chose to limit its commitment to viewers to 12 prime hours.
Of scripted shows airing in 2011-12, Fox did not renew "I Hate My Teenage Daughter", "Breaking In", "The Finder", "Terra Nova", "Alcatraz", "House", "Allen Gregory", and "Napoleon Dynamite" representing potentially 6 hours of air time or 50% of its available prime hours each week.
Of scripted shows airing in 2011-12, CBS did not renew"A Gifted Man", "NYC 22", "CSI: Miami", "Unforgettable", "How To Be A Gentleman", and "Rob" representing potentially 5 hours of air time or 28% of its available prime hours each week.
Next fall we have this comparison between Fox and CBS:
Fox has one new drama "Mob Doctor" airing on Monday and two new sitcoms "Ben and Kate" and "Mindy Project" airing on Tuesday, which combined represent 17% of its prime hours. "Mob Doctor" is placed in the extremely competitive Monday 9:00 time slot with "Bones" as its lead-in. "Ben and Kate" have "Raising Hope" as a lead in. "Mindy Project" has "New Girl" as a lead in.
From a ratings potential standpoint, Fox appears to have condemned all its new shows to failure. After "disappearing the show for an extended time" Fox took "Bones" from its Thursday 9:00 slot where it was getting 3.0+ demo ratings and put it on Monday at 8:00 where in the past three weeks it averaged 1.9. In its last new episode "Raising Hope" had a 1.6 demo. Only "New Girl" had any ratings to support a new show, averaging 2.5 in its last three weeks which is no powerful lead in.
CBS has one new sitcom "Partners" airing on Monday in the time slot that "2 Broke Girls" gained big ratings. It has three new dramas "Vegas" airing on Tuesday after the "NCIS" and "NCIS: LA" powerhouse and "Elementary" airing on Thursday after "Person of Interest" and against the weak competition of "Scandal" and "Brian Williams", and "Made in Jersey" airing on Friday after "CSI:NY". The new shows combined represent 19% of its prime hours.
Fox has "X-Factor" tying up three hours a week which represents 25% of its prime hours. Fox has chosen to not use the three hours of "X-Factor" to attempt to build it's new scripted lineup.
CBS has two hours of "reality game shows", both unique involving production costs, "Survivor" on Wednesday and "Amazing Race" on Sunday which combined represent 11% of its air time.
Fox's has planned for its new shows to experience "the cumulative effect of nonlinear viewing.” Fox will be displacing its fall lineup with the National League Championship Series and the World series. When a game is scheduled for a time slot assigned to a new scripted show, that new scripted show will be displaced. Traditionally Fox has assured the continuity of "X-Factor" though some episodes may be aired on nights and times regularly assigned to the new scripted shows which will be aired some week in the future if you can follow what's going on with the World Series which could be 4 games or 7 games.
CBS will have a problem of NFL overruns on Sunday next fall. Fox has cushioned its animated lineup to reduce the Sunday NFL overrun effect.
Thus for live viewers who don't use DVR's, in order to make financial analysts happy Fox's fall scripted shows will be hard to follow as the "sports and game show network" displaces them with profitable sports and game shows.
To earn Sunday daytime sports revenue, some Sundays in the eastern half of the nation CBS will cause late showings of its Sunday well established scripted show lineup (plus "60 Minutes").
Some good news about Unforgettable it might get pick up by TNT or Lifetime.