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The Amazing Race - OAD 10/25/09

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by Herdfan, Oct 26, 2009.

  1. redfiver

    redfiver DBSTalk Club Member

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    Fair enough. and you're right to think how you like. I can respect that.

    But, I do have an honest question: Do you watch any professional sports such as football or basketball? Athletes in both of those sports try to play mind games with other players, with usually much stronger language and topics. If you do watch those activities, how do you see that being different from what Flight and EZ did (if you do)?

    I'm not trying to change your mind or insinuate that you're thoughts aren't correct, I'm genuinely curious.
     
  2. Lee L

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    There is an interview up with Mika and Canaan at RealityTvWorld: http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/...anaan-smith-discuss-the-amazing-race-9820.php Good questions and seems like honest answers.

    Canaan does say that the rules prevented him from forcing her to do the challenge so that is probably why he was sitting away from her.

    He is also saying he got into it with FT and BE but they did not show it.

    She also took 30 minutes convincing to go down a 6 FOOT waterslide off a houseboat 2 weeks prior to leaving.
     
  3. say-what

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    I would also imagine that the slide's safety rules would prevent you from pushing someone down the slide. I'm actually surprised the attendant let him get into the starting area with her.
     
  4. Henry

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    The difference is obvious, the (the foot/baskeballers) are professional athletes who fully expect that behavior - and are more than willing to indulge in the same with other athletes. It's part of the sport.

    Two professionals (if I can use that word to describe those two) against a civilian off the streets in the form of a young frightened girl is a no-contest. That's one.

    Two. What they did defies civil decency. That's where they crossed the line with me. I said, and I meant, she deserved to go home for being a scaredy-cat. But that's no excuse for the lack of civility displayed by the two supposed "professionals".
     
  5. davemayo

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    We agree to disagree. :D
     
  6. Henry

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    I agree. My guess is that TAR productions had to accept (in writing, I imagine) any liability before the resort allowed its rules to be bent.
     
  7. dpeters11

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    I think they'd just make them go back and complete it. Technically it really wasn't a challenge, not a roadblock or detour. But if it took as much as it did for her to go down a 6' slide, there's no way. We know she has water and heights issues. She had her water wings, but there was no way she'd complete it.
     
  8. spartanstew

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    I loved the fact that she was wearing water wings to be dumped into a 3' pool at the bottom.
     
  9. Henry

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    :lol:

    Yeah, that part was funny. It goes to prove that fear is irrational.

    Surely someone (Canaan?) must have told her that the sharks were in an isolated pool and that the slide went through it via a transparent tube? And someone should have told her that the trip down the chute was safer than being in a car on a highway or, as you describe, that the landing point was shallow?

    But then again, fear is irrational ... I agree though, the wings were cute. :D
     
  10. djlong

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    My personal opinion is that they were "slightly classless". They've been pretty upstanding in the past. To me, that gives them a little credit when you consider they were in LAST PLACE and, to coin a phrase, 'fighting for their (game) lives'.

    Yeah, some trash-talking to "civilians" is a little uncalled for - but by the same token, canaan and Mika signed up for this. That's why I call it "slightly classless". They (FT & BE) *could* have taken the higer road and didn't.

    If I were Canaan, though, I would have tried a VERY different approach. Well, different from what we were shown on TV.
     
  11. jodyguercio

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    This is a game right? So what's wrong with the trash talk? That's all it was, trash talk. Do we have a problem when people heckle a baseball player at the plate? A basketball player shooting free throws? I sure don't so why the big fuss?

    FT and BE are still my favorite team along with Pinky and his dad.
     
  12. Doug Brott

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    The only "better" way I can think of is if he went down first, then walked back to the top to discuss it with her saying "see, no problem .. It's only 3' deep at the end and you land in the water really slow (compared to what you would think)" .. Basically a scouting mission to give her all of the details on what is going to happen before it happens to her.

    Would it have worked? :shrug:

    Would there have been enough time? Probably, but I don't know how long they were actually standing at the top.
     
  13. Doug Brott

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    I'm with you there, and these folks had also become more comfortable with each other so in some respects it was as if you were talking to your "buddy" as opposed to a stranger on the street.

    IMHO, there was nothing wrong with what they did and I would have done exactly the same thing.
     
  14. Herdfan

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    My take on the "trash talk" was that they might have had no idea how long they had been up their. For all they knew, they had been there 5 minutes in which case the trash talk would have been more appropriate. If she hadn't gone in an hour, then trash talk would not have made a difference.

    I agree with the idea that Canaan should have gone first to show her it was no big deal. Or maybe found an 8 year old.:lol:

    My wife and I were talking about some of the challenges from past seasons. She remember some I had not like the rope ladder climb down the building in China?, the mountain face climb in Brazil? and the high wire bicycle somewhere. How could they think they could compete with that level of a fear of heights?
     
  15. Lee L

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    You are right. When they arrived The Globetrotters had no idea what had transpired up till then. I bet if they did, they would have probably laid off.
     
  16. say-what

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    Well, he did go down the slide after the Globetrotters and she just stayed up there crying until he eventually walked back up and consolled her and they both walked back down. She wasn't about to go down that slide.

    I can understand a fear of heights, I have it and it would have probably taken me a bit to relax before pushing off over the edge......

    They were at the slide for 30 to 40 minutes before the Globetrotters arrived - http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/...-canaan-smith-talks-the-amazing-race-9820.php
     
  17. redfiver

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    I still disagree, as all teams signed up for this. They should have expected some mind games to be played or not signed up. I agree to disagree with you on this point. :)

    But, why does it matter that she was a girl? What if it was a guy who was that scared, would it have been okay then? In a competition of this type, the gender of your competitor shouldn't matter. I'm really not trying to stir up the pot... honestly.. even though it probably seems that way. But really why does it matter if they are playing mind games on a girl rather than a guy?
     
  18. Doug Brott

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    Besides, there was nothing physical .. From that perspective, Canaan was actually worse (although I think we just saw the "bad" in that one scene .. I think overall it's not an issue between him and Mika).
     
  19. redfiver

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    I don't think he's physical, but in a post-race interview he said they went at it with each other a couple of times, yelling and stuff. But I don't get the impression he's physically abusive to her. He just wanted her to go down the darn slide! He said he would have pushed her down if the race rules allowed him to.
     
  20. RACJ2

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    I believe after he went down the slide, Mika walked down and then he consoled her. He never went back up to the top. In the long run, it really didn't matter that she didn't go down the slide. At some point her fear of water & heights was going to put them out of the competition.
     

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