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The Americans on FX

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by Scott Kocourek, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. toobs

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    Same here. My recording was good also.
     
  2. MysteryMan

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    On a side note I just read on Yahoo the U.S. Marshals Service is selling the home of real life Russian deep cover operatives Vladimir and Lydia Guryev (aka Richard and Cynthia Murphy) in Mountclair, New Jersey. The couple have two children. They were arrested in 2010 after a decade long counterintelligence probe. The couple were part of a ring that meshed into American life while engaging in clandestine activities. Their primary mission was infiltrating U.S. policy circles to learn about U.S. Diplomacy and weapons information.
     
  3. TomCat

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    Just for the record, a broadcast/DBS/cable channel can't simply offer any program in a different format than what they broadcast in, and they also can't easily change that format. Technically they could, just not easily, but it would cause a major glitch every time they went to a program segment in one format from a commercial or program segment in a different format. That glitch would burp the encoder significantly, and would also probably burp everyone's decoder, so it would really be two major glitches. It might even abort DVR recordings, or at a minimum turn a single recording into a series of short recordings, which is what happens when you lose and regain signal. No channel could afford that technical issue; there is just no graceful way to change format on the fly.

    And actually, every piece of video that was originally film or 24 fps, regardless of its current format, is broadcast in 24p by virtue of the "film mode" aspect of MPEG encoding. But if the current mode had 3:2 pulldown, that is recreated in the local decoder (along with interlacing if it also had that), so you will still experience it as 1080i30 or whatever the current format is.

    AFAIK, only one service broadcasts in 1080p24, and that is The NFL Channel. And most vendors rescale that to 1080i30 so that they can insert local commercials. My best guess is that they wanted to preserve the feel of their huge NFL films library, but it sort of backfired since most folks can't get it in 1080p24 anyway.

    No matter, there is really no significant advantage of 24p, and it is typically offset by its disadvantages. If you have a 120 Hz or higher TV you do not have those disadvantages, but you already have the advantages of 24p for every other video format sent you, other than removal of the interlace error in 1080i.

    Back OT, I am a little disappointed in what a schmuck the lead character is; he seems to be moping around about Gregory and doesn't even know how he feels about his fake wife or even why. Enough already. Noah Emerich's next-door neighbor character is much more interesting.

    The story line of her starting to feel something for him is OK, but honestly, where else could they have gone? Would a story about these two not having feelings for each other be very compelling? I think not.

    On the positive side, I thought they took great advantage of the Reagan shooting and told a pretty good story around that. (Oh yeah; Reagan got shot...hope that wasn't a spoiler to some of you)

    Still in, just not as hopeful as I was after the premiere.
     
  4. May 4, 2013 #124 of 142
    mrro82

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    Good season finale IMHO. I'm really glad this got renewed. It's nice having a different show type to watch.
     
  5. May 7, 2013 #125 of 142
    oldschoolecw

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    Just watched a marathon over the past 2 days, very disappointed no major commie bastards were killed, I really don't know if I will watch a second season after this
     
  6. May 7, 2013 #126 of 142
    sigma1914

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    What about the hotel scene?
     
  7. May 7, 2013 #127 of 142
    TomCat

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    Odd that someone can immerse themselves in the series but probably still doesn't understand that "good guy" and "bad guy" are nothing more than points of view, mere opinions. That was the entire underlying premise of the series. No one expected any viewer with a clear mnd to be taking sides. That is exactly NOT what this show was about.

    There are no bad guys that believe that they are not good guys. Even those moron marathon bombers thought they were doing the right thing. Scary, but realistic. Any other thinking that reduces any of us to white hats or black hats is a pretty immature and a severely limited understanding of the way the world goes around.

    Folks, please, at least try to rub two brain cells together. Next we'll be hearing that the government needs to "keep their stinking hands off my free welfare check." The nerve of them taxing gasoline just so that we can pay to build roads to drive on.
     
  8. May 7, 2013 #128 of 142
    1953

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    We anxiously await the second season.
     
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    yosoyellobo

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    + 1
     
  10. May 7, 2013 #130 of 142
    Drucifer

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    I didn't see anything to get exciting about. So far, I have found it rather boring and predictable. The only thing they missed in the first season was the teenage daughter finding things.
     
  11. May 8, 2013 #131 of 142
    Supramom2000

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    Strongly disagree. Doesn't matter whether they think they are good guys. From our perspective, they are bad guys. From American history's perspective, they are bad guys. I want to see someone from the Russian side caught. That's my payoff as the viewer.

    I understand making villains multi-faceted and complex. Look at Homeland! But as an American citizen, not to mention an Army veteran, I want payoff in the form of Russian Communists being busted!
     
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    MysteryMan

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    :nono2: ......Lieutenant Victor Ivanovich Belenko would strongly disagree with you!...... :nono2:
     
  13. May 8, 2013 #133 of 142
    RunnerFL

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    Same here
     
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    oldschoolecw

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    Totally agree and that's what the season was built upon, and the FBI is no closer to catching the couple.
     
  15. May 8, 2013 #135 of 142
    phrelin

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    Hmmmm. The "bad guys." Well, I wish I could see it that straightforwardly.

    Yes, while in the military or in national security one has to know who is the enemy. It must be very straightforward. And in this show Elizabeth Jennings, more than Phillip, has that sense of clarity that she shares with Stan Beeman.

    But American political trends do not create a very good windows through which to view history. For a time, the British were "the bad guys." You have to remember that from an American history perspective the Indians were "the bad guys" for most generations, really until WWII when we were confronted with the concept of genocide as public policy followed by Apartheid becoming public policy in 1948.

    The American First Red Scare of (1919–1921) came after the end of WWI. The Second Red Scare of (1947–1957) came after WWII. Then there was the Cuban Missile Crisis. Surrounding these periods were xenophobic disinformation campaigns. so for Stan the Soviets were the enemy.

    But labeling anyone in this show "the bad guys" is much harder than recognizing the concept of people being enemies.

    So I don't find clarity that would make me cheer if Elizabeth or Phillip gets killed, or make me outraged if Stan were to be killed. To me they are three characters struggling to make sense of their circumstances.
     
  16. May 9, 2013 #136 of 142
    Supramom2000

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    Sorry, I still disagree. The Russians have always been the "bad guys" and still are. Russian mafia and car theft/chop shop rings are active every where. The country of Russia still lies to us and backs China against us all the time. They seem to back whatever and whoever we disagree with when it comes to global politcis.

    Regardless, I want who I view as the "bad guy" to get caught. I like how they show Elizabeth viewing us as the bad guy. I get her dedication and devotion. But the show is taking place in America, not Russia. Thus, from our prism, she is the bad guy.
     
  17. May 9, 2013 #137 of 142
    phrelin

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    In the sense of the traditional "good guys versus bad guys" old western or WWII war movie I intellectually agree with your view.

    But the Dictionary.com definition of "bad" throws me off in this show's scenario:

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    I'm not emotionally comfortable with defining these characters using that definition. That's why I prefer to use "enemy":

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    I know it's probably silly, but sometimes my gut makes these things complicated.
     
  18. May 9, 2013 #138 of 142
    MysteryMan

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    "We will bury you", Nikita Khrushchev 18 November 1956. Red China, North Korea, the Warsaw Pact. All bi-products of Communist Russia. I still have Russian steel embedded in my hand and leg from when I was wounded in Vietnam. No doubt in my mind who the bad guys were then and still are today.
     
  19. Nick

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    Spooks riding around in cars and walking around in parks.

    The season four finale of "The Americans - Persona Non Grata" was a let down for me.
    The so-called cliffhangers were weak, and the episode's plot was virtually non-existent,
    as if the writers had run out of ideas and picked up previously rejected notes from the trash
    can. Having the two dads sneak up on the smooching teens was tacky and awkward to me.

    Still, I look fwd to season 5 with the hope that the producers and writers get their act together.

    (I hope the absence of posts in this thread for three years doesn't mean that the show has
    run the course - am I the only one left watching?)
     
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  20. Supramom2000

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    I stopped watching somewhere towards the end of the second season. I couldn't stand how the Russians spies were winning everything, and our FBI agents were stupid doofuses! It was just too depressing. My husband still watches.
     

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