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The Battle is on! My landlord now demands I remove my dish

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Lord Vader, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. Aug 12, 2012 #961 of 1128
    Tom Robertson

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    Is it not the case that Texas can further restrict the landlords or, in this particular case, define what is the maximum that is considered reasonable since the Feds did not?

    Now as to reasonableness, if you are using your non-pren mount and utilizing existing methods to bring the wire(s) into the apartment, I agree the deposit seems unreasonable.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  2. Aug 12, 2012 #962 of 1128
    Lord Vader

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    I'm not exactly sure if any state is allowed to dictate conditions of antenna installations. I should run it by my contact at the SBCA.

    I will, in fact, be bringing my own Slimline dish, as I have an extra one still in its original box. I'll also be providing the multiswitch.
     
  3. Aug 12, 2012 #963 of 1128
    Tom Robertson

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    I think since the Feds opened the door to fees without specifying what those fees are, states can define the maximum. Now, if the feds or courts define a lower maximum, that would supersede the state law.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  4. Aug 12, 2012 #964 of 1128
    Lord Vader

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    It may not even be worth the trouble to quibble over a deposit of only $80.
    I'm going to try to remember to take some pictures of the dishes here. From what I've seen, it appears that each building has a master dish that is mounted onto an approximately 5-feet tall, solid sturdy pole. The wiring isn't visible; instead, it appears to go underground into its respective building.
     
  5. Aug 12, 2012 #965 of 1128
    James Long

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    Then complain to the FCC and have them decide if you are right or the landlord is right.
    Provide title, chapter and paragraph of the state law that allows such a charge. Perhaps it echoes the federal law of "unreasonable" without a dollar amount. Perhaps it sets a dollar amount that is higher. I wouldn't simply accept that there even IS a state law in play until I read one.

    Too many people make the argument "it is the law" without knowing the laws.
     
  6. Aug 12, 2012 #966 of 1128
    Justin23

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    It's the principle of the matter! Fight that $80!
     
  7. Aug 12, 2012 #967 of 1128
    inf0z

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    Lord Vader trolln' the land lords like a pro! Good luck, lets us know how it turns out sir.
     
  8. Aug 12, 2012 #968 of 1128
    banditt76

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    I'll have to remember this thread if I ever have trouble getting satellite TV at an apartment.
     
  9. Aug 12, 2012 #969 of 1128
    P Smith

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    At least LV is went up to the end and won it once. Amount doesn't matter !
     
  10. Aug 12, 2012 #970 of 1128
    trh

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    At the end of the OTARD page, there are links to a number of cases. You might want to scan through those to see if there has been a similar case/ruling already by the FCC.
     
  11. Aug 13, 2012 #971 of 1128
    texasbrit

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    I was on the Architectural Control Committe of my HOA here in DFW, and of course took a special interest in OTARD and the satellite installation issues, including attending a couple of attorney briefings. I moved 18 months ago, and so some things may have changed, but I can tell you there was no such Texas law, and that states were not allowed to pass any legislation that impacted OTARD. The FCC position was that "unreasonable" was in the judgement of the satellite TV customer, not the HOA or apartment managers. If you think it is unreasonable, it is.

    I am pretty sure that the "state law" does not exist.
     
  12. Aug 13, 2012 #972 of 1128
    hdtvfan0001

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    The U.S. participation in World War 1 only lasted a little over 1 1/2 years...so it appears that this battle is approaching that age. :D
     
  13. Aug 13, 2012 #973 of 1128
    Carl Spock

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    Vader, there is a state law in Minnesota that whoever first reads about a high rise satellite dish installation in Texas has to get a $50 deposit in case the new dish stops ducks from flying north. I haven't seen a duck in weeks. I will be expecting my check to arrive by the end of the week.
     
  14. Aug 13, 2012 #974 of 1128
    cbhpi

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    I have access to a legal search engine for Texas and other states. Using the search terms dish, satellite dish, satellite, and satellite antenna, I found no Texas statute authorizing a deposit when installing a dish.
     
  15. Aug 13, 2012 #975 of 1128
    inkahauts

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    I'd bet the guy was confused and was simply told this even though it's really a FCC thing.. And that they decided $80 was reasonable. I can actually see it as reasonable, because if they allow you to even set up a non pen mount, if you scratch up the balcony, it could cost quite a bit to fix depending what the balcony is made of, and this might be a good way to make people be careful, just like a security deposit. I lived at once place that said you can't even put a small rug on your balcony. When I asked why, they said they just spent thousands of dollars on each units balconies fixing them because people had never bothered to remove and dry out ones they had on the balconies and it had caused major rot and damage to the balconies floors. That was reasonable, since they had proof a issue could occur and unfortunately did, and they needed to be even handed with everyone in preventing the same issue from happening again.
     
  16. Aug 13, 2012 #976 of 1128
    P Smith

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    If we will hear similar story about issue(s) with sat dishes at that complex what leaded to impose such amount [$80], then we could talk. For now it's smell as a blatant requirement.
     
  17. Aug 13, 2012 #977 of 1128
    jdspencer

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    So this $80 amount is over and above the normal security deposit?
     
  18. Aug 13, 2012 #978 of 1128
    inkahauts

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    Vadar, did they say it's a deposit and you get your money back when you leave based on not screwing up the floor, etc?
     
  19. Aug 13, 2012 #979 of 1128
    texasbrit

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    If the apartment complex already takes a security deposit, there's no justification for another one just because you have satellite.
     
  20. Aug 13, 2012 #980 of 1128
    P Smith

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    Looks like for me it's the same old adagio singing there: "because we can".
     

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