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The Blacklist renewed

Discussion in 'TV Show Talk' started by dpeters11, Dec 5, 2013.

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    Cool.
     
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    MysteryMan

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    Nice to hear. It's one new series I really like.
     
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    The ending for the first half was really a hanger with him saying no.
     
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    Well they at least finally addressed it, of course we don't know the truth yet but at least her question brought it out in the open. Also thought it was interesting introducing Alan Alda's character as the shadowy figure behind the world's evil doings so to speak. Maybe this series equivalent of the CSM from the X-files, always in the shadows and makes an appearance here and there for a poignant moment.
     
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    Good to hear, I am in the target demo and I think this is the only NBC show I watch. Can't believe its almost been 20 years since Earth 2, I loved that show as well.
     
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    Now I am going to go pull out my Earth 2 DVD set!! Loved that show.

    Blacklist is an excellent show, probably the first NBC show I have watched since the Knightrider reboot.
     
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    Good show.
     
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    It's not quite as simple as a ratings comparison. The story here is that it has the best ratings of any new NBC show since that show, a show that ran 19 years ago and was cancelled after 22 eps, a show that few of us or virtually anyone outside this forum even remembers. I loved it and booed it's cancellation then.

    This just goes to support Warren Littlefield's "Top of the Rock", which claimed that NBC was run by true programming geniuses at one time, and since that time, has quite obviously not been (even though it was one of those "geniuses" that made this claim).

    So if NBC cancels what is probably the best new show in 5 years, from anyone, we should probably not be all that surprised.

    After all, how many new shows has NBC put out in the last 19 years, ~150? Seeing as how neither the ratings for Earth2 nor The Blacklist have set the world on fire, that makes their batting average pretty dismal, way under the Medoza line.
     
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    While I think "The Blacklist" is good, it's on after "The Voice." I'm not sure what the ratings would have been like on Thursday at 10:00 pm against "Scandal" and "Elementary" with a lead-in from the dismally-rated NBC comedy lineup.

    But then again I'm not really sure why it matters what the small portion of Americans in the 18-49 age group who watch TV live are watching. But it apparently does matter more than anything.
     
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    I think it could have held its own. But no one should ever assume that an unknown quantity (a new show) is a safe bet against two well-established very popular shows that are also at their creative peaks. That's like trying to stop a locomotive with a full head of steam by parking your Prius C on the railroad tracks.

    But now that TBL is not an unknown quantity and has ratings, a following, and critical acclaim, don't be too surprised if parking TBL on the railroad tracks of Thursday at 10 is not exactly what NBC does. Of course they would have to beef up the leadin some or it would be suicide and they would end up moving it again. A "special showing" on Thursday while those other shows are in rerun might be a clue that they are testing those waters, and a success like TBL is exactly the kind of show you haul out for something like that.

    Folks complain that the best shows are always on at the same time. Well, there's one reason why. It is also part of network programming shooting itself in the foot; it makes DVRs look that much more attractive.
     
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    To bring an old topic up. I am starting to sour on the show. Just the parts with Elizabeth and her Husband. It is so bad now I skip all the parts with those two as it is the same thing over and over, she works too much and misses everything they had scheduled. I know there is going to be more to her husbands story but at this point I don't care about that character at all. I'll go out on a limb and say I am not the only one sick of that currently pointless time filling story line. Hope they button that up sooner rather than later or I think it will be the beginning of the end for the show.
     
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    It's the weakest part of the show. I keep hoping they go wherever they expect to go with that, but now I wonder if they even know where they are going.

    Robert Bianco of USA Today has a problem with the level of gruesome violence, and I guess I was ignoring that, but he's right. He compares it to Criminal Minds in that way, and he thinks CM is the most reprehensible show on TV because of that. I sort of agree; CM was a show I loved for a couple years but never really understood why, then I outgrew it or got tired of it hanging everything on the violence and evil, and doing little else.

    So IMHO the difference between CM and TBL is that TBL does everything else, and they do it well (except for the "Tom" storyline). IOW, while I wish they would find a way to lower the evil/violence quotient without diluting the show, as long as they keep doing everything else as well as they do, I will cut them a break on that. But CM knows only how to fill our face with evil/violence and they sleepwalk through the procedural part which is predictable and boring; I won't tolerate the evil/violence if it has nothing else along with it to ameliorate that.

    Of course the other thing they have is James Spader, who is very hard to beat. The show is worth it for his genius alone.
     
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    I nearly gave up on the show due to the violence at the end of the last year. The most recent episode (with adoptions) did not seem to be over the top as the previous shows (surgery scenes where the criminal modifies a person so their body matches forensics, torture scenes where someone abducts an abuser then gives them identical injuries to the person they abused). It seems that a lot of shows go for the gratuitous violence aspect. I normally consider it a sign of weak writing. If you can't write a captivating story put some blood and gore on the screen. Unfortunately after a while the level of blood and gore needed to get attention has to be more violent than other shows ... and the art of storytelling is lost.

    I once enjoyed the Law and Order series but gave up on SVU when it became just a cavalcade of how sexual perverts hurt people. There are some things I just don't want to know - especially labeled as entertainment. Do I really want to be entertained by some writer's horrible fantasies - even if they are "based on a true story"? No, I don't think so.

    There are some storylines that need resolved - Toms is one of them. With him becoming unfaithful I wonder if Red will deliver some more information to harm him. Protecting Elizabeth.
     
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    I agree on the evil/violence. We gave up on Criminal Minds after only a few episodes due to it. Red's nonchalance about killing is getting more disturbing, too. A character needs to have some redeeming qualities so the audience can identify with him.
     
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    Wondering who's dropped it and who hasn't. The show still has some disturbing aspects, but my partner likes it, and it's not chick flic fare.

    Do you realize that's Pee Wee Herman in one of the bit parts? Not a solo act, mind you; he appears with other henchmen.
     
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    James Bond has a "License to Kill" who he wants, where he wants, when he wants and has nonchalantly killed dozens of people. Dirty Harry Callahan shot and killed a group of bank robbers while nonchalantly eating a hot dog. Lenny Briscoe (not a killer) always had a wisecrack about the murder victim. Why all the fuss over Raymond 'Red' Reddington?
     
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    I see you noticed Paul Reubens playing Mr. Vargas too.
     
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    The early Bond films and Dirty Harry were not nearly as graphic as what is on TV today, but some of it still made me uncomfortable. I do not care for how graphic the Bond films have gotten lately (since they cast Daniel Craig). I don't watch L&O so have no comment on Briscoe (that is the show you mean, right?) And it's not just evil/killing. We don't watch doctor or hospital shows any longer either because of all the blood and gore. And they're supposedly saving lives, not taking them.

    But at least Bond and Callahan were "good guys", who only killed "bad guys" - those for which a "he needed killin'" defense might stand up in court. Reddington is a criminal, who kills indiscriminately and far more nonchalantly than either of those. He kills people like one would squash a bug.
     
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