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The great OTA debate

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by gcisko, Oct 18, 2007.

Do you want/need OTA

  1. YES

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. NO - I am good to go

    449 vote(s)
    100.0%
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  1. Oct 18, 2007 #61 of 356
    Splendor

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    I'm not sure why you're so confident that the majority of consumers who are asked if they would like to purchase widget A for $300 or widget B (which is missing one feature of widget A) for $300 would choose widget B. Maybe you think that they're just impressed by shiny boxes like you. :kisshead:
     
  2. Oct 18, 2007 #62 of 356
    Canis Lupus

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    This is sensible, as we've seen in many other posts where even between the -700 and the -100, by far a more similar box, those boxes seemed to be plentiful in some areas and gone in others (and vice versa) for a much less explicable reason, except for maybe simple distribution/availability/shipping and trucking costs - whatever.

     
  3. Oct 18, 2007 #63 of 356
    hdtvfan0001

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    Uh....perhaps its time to consider a drier climate? OK, just kidding. :lol:

    Actually, the only rain fade I've ever seen come into play with use of the sat dish is in torrential rains with lightening....and in those cases....I'm think more about an Ark or heading to the basement for shelter than OTA. The idea of watching TV in a bad lightening storm just doesn't sound prudent. :D

    By the way, in those storms, my neighbors Comcrap cable goes out every time.
    Not according to recent industry trade publications that indicate the costs for local digital sub-channels is cost-prohibitive except in perhaps the top 15 or so markets. I live in one of those, and the local stations have all been complaining that they actually want to only support 1 OTA HD channel each.
     
  4. Oct 18, 2007 #64 of 356
    hdtvfan0001

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    I'm confident because DirecTV (or any other for-profit company) has no intention of supporting any solution when there is no problem. They see no problem, most customers see no problem, the market sees no problem, even the local stations see no problem (except maybe any expansion of digital broadcast to OTA beyond what is there today - that costs them money).
     
  5. Oct 18, 2007 #65 of 356
    Splendor

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    So your confidence is based on the infallibility of corporations? :lol:
     
  6. Oct 18, 2007 #66 of 356
    Tom Robertson

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    Voted Yes. And the further story is "but not on every receiver." :)

    I'm very curious as to these numbers across a wider audience base. My dad and mom (step) would be a yes, my mom and dad (step) would be a no (they live in a locale with almost no OTA nearby.)

    A good bit of my family would be "what is HD?" or "I can't afford HD anyway." :(

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  7. Oct 18, 2007 #67 of 356
    gcisko

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    Depends. Perhaps the problem is the masses do not realize what OTA would get them? Don't understand what it really is? Don't realize it is a possibility? If the masses really knew, I would think they would want it.

    I am quite surprised as how this poll is going so far. Judging from all the tense posts in other threads I thought it was just a small percentage that wanted OTA. I read many posts with "attitude" that insisted as much. Well???
     
  8. Oct 18, 2007 #68 of 356
    911medic

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    Nice work on the first look, guys.
    The simple fact is, that if satellite reception were as reliable as OTA, we wouldn't "crave" it. But it's not. When it storms (or even just rains heavily), I want to be able to a) check the weather broadcasts on TV and b) be able to record programming.

    If I'm setting the unit to record something "critical" on a local channel more than a day or two in advance, it's being set to record on the OTA. Why? Because I've lost recordings due to weather via satellite.

    So for some of us, it IS "that big a deal."
     
  9. Oct 18, 2007 #69 of 356
    Earl Bonovich

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    Why would you be surprised? (I am not)

    This is going to turn into another DLB debate...
     
  10. Oct 18, 2007 #70 of 356
    LameLefty

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    Cable is perfectly reliable here too. Overpriced and under-featured as well, but reliable.

    I get a few moments in a torrential downpour a couple times a year. Otherwise not an issue. And if I ever do have issues with Ka MPEG4, I switch over to the Ku SD version and the problem goes away. Ku is MUCH less resistant to rain fade and the AT-9 is much bigger than the old 18" round dishes ever could be.

    Then I submit you are in the minority. Add in the lack of national HDs, poor PQ on HDs here, the crappiest DVRs known to mankind and the exorbitant costs, I'll stick with Directv, regardless of the fact that my HR21 doesn't receive OTA signals.
     
  11. Oct 18, 2007 #71 of 356
    gcisko

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    Please. The DLB poll has 94,000+ views and 2900+ votes. The OTA poll has 650+ views and 135+ votes. Do the math. This poll is getting a FAR higher percentage of votes than the much vaunted DLB.

    And... Cable will never win!
     
  12. Oct 18, 2007 #72 of 356
    LameLefty

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    You shouldn't be. The vocal minority always trumps the quiet majority - and unfortunately, often dictates the issues and often the "solutions" to those issues. :rolleyes:
     
  13. Oct 18, 2007 #73 of 356
    Vader14

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    OTA is nice to have if it's raining
     
  14. Oct 18, 2007 #74 of 356
    gcisko

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    It has been a DLB type debate for some time right? What this is showing me is a far higher percentage are willing to vote on it (care more). Hope I didn't jinx it :grin:
     
  15. Oct 18, 2007 #75 of 356
    LameLefty

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    Read my next post regarding vocal minorities. :)
     
  16. Oct 18, 2007 #76 of 356
    Kansas Zephyr

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    No, heavy rain from non-severe storms is common here, too. No reason to go to the basement for those. But, geez...it's pouring outside. Hey, let's watch some TV.

    I'm in a "top 70" market. There are 4 subs on-air now. In Panama City, FL a "top 120" market the CW and My TV networks are sub-channels on the NBCs digital signal.
     
  17. Oct 18, 2007 #77 of 356
    hdtvfan0001

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    Perhaps, just like the majority of Americans have no clue about HDTV in general.
    I'm not....those with strong feelings tend to post repeatedly. The number of voters in this poll are negligible to any sampling of value. Since this attracted those with strong feelings towards OTA, I would have been shocked for any such little sampling NOT to favor OTA. :eek2:

    But it is all entertaining. :D
     
  18. Oct 18, 2007 #78 of 356
    gcisko

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    Yeah I saw it and filed it already :D
     
  19. Oct 18, 2007 #79 of 356
    Earl Bonovich

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    Exactly...
     
  20. Oct 18, 2007 #80 of 356
    gcisko

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    Oh no!!!!! We agree on something :eek2:
     
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