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The iPhone 4 thread

Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by Lee L, Jun 7, 2010.

  1. flexoffset

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    It depends on where you are.
    I was on vacation last week and when I was in Edge areas my iPhone 4 worked fine. Here in my home area, Edge barely works when it works at all. I know 5 people enduring the same issue where I live.
    I think AT&T has some faulty equipment (but try telling them that).

    3G in Destin, FL rocked and I really miss it.
     
  2. Yoda-DBSguy

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    A Galaxy...
    But the fact that they are going to give away a free casse doesn't correct the underlying design flaw.

    Yes as Steve Jobs pointed out; alot of phones antenna signals are degraded by touching the phone. However thier problem is amplified due to the fact that the antenna itself is outside in an area where people can't help but touch or hold it in the manner that causes a reception/signal problem.

    The whole deal was to showcase the phones sleek physical appearance which is now precluded by covering it up with their free supplied case.

    You might as well call it a band-aid fix; in fact, let's do just that:
     

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  3. Stewart Vernon

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    That sums up my impressions based upon what I've been reading and the sample videos I've seen.

    Sounds like if you are making a trip and want quality, keep going with your dedicated equipment... but in a surprise situation where you weren't expecting to need to shoot video, the iPhone will do well.

    Also, I think it is probably good enough that you could consider some of those intentionally-handheld-camera-look type of shoots. Once you get a handle on the shortcomings and can work around them, you might be able to shoot man-on-the-street kinds of amateur video and still be pretty good considering the investment is much lower than buying high-end stuff that might be overkill for true amateur video.

    I bet someone also comes up with a tri-pod mount for the iPhone 4 now that it is good enough to warrant one.
     
  4. flexoffset

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  5. Lee L

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    What, by the time the iPhone 6 comes around, we'll be able to record great video and make calls? ;)

    Actually, by then, it should be better, but since the lens can never really be too much bigger than it is now due to increasing the thickness at the same time, a standalone camera will always be able to look better than a phone, no matter how many megapixels it has.

    Personally, I was kind of glad that Apple seemed to focus more on the quality and size of the sensor this time rather than simply jacking the megapixel count up as it seems to have made a pretty decent camera overall, as long as you know the limitations like you pointed out. I have noticed that low light pictures (and by low light, I mean even many indoor shots at normal light) come out so much better on the iPhone 4 than on my 3G it is like night and day.
     
  6. Chris Blount

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    That's what I was thinking as well. A good lens makes all the difference in the world.
     
  7. Stuart Sweet

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    There is a technology that's still in its infancy. I read about it a few years ago but not since. The idea is that you make a deformable, almost liquid lens, less like the lenses on cameras and more like the lenses in people's eyes. The ability to deform, combined with the ability to have different indices of refraction in the same piece, could bring a true variable focus zoom lens to something the same thickness as today's cameraphones.

    Maybe you'll see that on iPhone 6. (Of course, you'll probably see it on something else first but it won't work right, then Steve Jobs will unveil it with a catchy name like FishEye and everyone will coo over it :lol:)
     
  8. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    I think you will see it first on other phones, it will work just fine, then Steve Jobs will unveil it with a catchy name, but you will need to take it to a optometrist and buy a contact lense to make it focus correctly. :D
     
  9. wingrider01

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    Have to admint I am in a quandry right now, been holding off on the Iphone 4 until the case that I prefer comes available. Well it is available now and so ia the Iphone 4. My quandry comes in since I saw the Captivia android phone that att brought out yesterday. I am torn between the 2 phones
     
  10. Lee L

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    For those of you who are wondering about the battery life on the iPhone 4. I have a screenshot for you. This was taken just after I plugged the phone in after running a complete cycle from 100%. Started Thursday AM and used it pretty much normally, including a fair amount of web surfing and some game playing. It got to about 2% at around lunchtime on Saturday and shut down right after.

    It is so nice not having to panic and find a charger when the phone gets to say 40%.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Marlin Guy

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    http://www.physorg.com/news199361076.html


    New gov't rules allow unapproved iPhone apps (Update)
    July 26, 2010 By JOELLE TESSLER , AP Technology Writer

    (AP) -- Owners of the iPhone will be able to legally break electronic locks on their devices in order to download software applications that haven't been approved by Apple Inc., according to new government rules announced Monday.

    The decision to allow the practice commonly known as "jailbreaking" is one of a handful of new exemptions from a 1998 federal law that prohibits people from bypassing technical measures that companies put on their products to prevent unauthorized uses. The Library of Congress, which oversees the Copyright Office, reviews and authorizes exemptions every three years to ensure that the law does not prevent certain non-infringing use of copyright-protected material.

    In addition to jailbreaking, other exemptions announced Monday would:

    - allow owners of used cell phones to break access controls on their phones in order to switch wireless carriers.

    - allow people to break technical protections on video games to investigate or correct security flaws.

    - allow college professors, film students and documentary filmmakers to break copy-protection measures on DVDs so they can embed clips for educational purposes, criticism, commentary and noncommercial videos.

    - allow computer owners to bypass the need for external security devices called dongles if the dongle no longer works and cannot be replaced.
     
  12. Stuart Sweet

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    I don't know the ramifications of this, but I do like the provision that you can break dongle protection in order to use software that you own but in which the dongle has broken.
     
  13. Chris Blount

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    What's funny is that nothing will change. Apple still won't condone jailbreaking and void the warranty if they know you jailbroke the phone. Of course, simply doing a restore erases the jailbreak...but if the phone is not working, how will you restore. LOL

    I think all this ruling does is make it easier for hackers. Now they don't have to worry about being prosecuted.
     
  14. Lee L

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    Well, at the very least, it is good to have it official that you are not a dirty terroist criminal just for jailbreaking and unlocking. Maybe a few more people will start working on it or be a little more public about it.
     
  15. Stewart Vernon

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    I never thought it was illegal anyway. So I missed what all the fuss was about. It was (and still will be) unsupported... so if you do it, you're on your own if it goes wacky.
     
  16. phrelin

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    The implications aren't quite that simple as this is about the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) . Consider this discussion in a PC Magazine article:
    And this from Information Week:
    By the way, this ruling isn't just about Apple, AT&T and the iPhone, or even just smart phones generally. They ruled on allowing the breaking the encryption on DVDs, for instance.
     
  17. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    First off, ATT has, for several years, provided unlock codes just for the asking if you are going out of the country and sign up for the International calling package.

    When I did call ATT to get the unlock codes, the rep told me I needed the International plan or I could go to a unlocking service, which I did (and got my 3 Curve 8900s and my Bold 9700 unlocked for free).

    Second, ATT has never cared if your phone is unlocked or not. My Moto Razr,
    4 Blackberrys, and Nexus 1 are all unlocked. When ever I have called ATT customer service I have told them that, they didn't care. In fact I had to return 3 unlocked Blackberry Curves for trackball issues (replaced free under my replacement plan). Each time I told the service rep that my BB is unlocked, no problem, the phones were still covered under the plan.
     
  18. Stuart Sweet

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    I understand some of the desire to jailbreak, but I'm not sure I'd do it in practice. I have a lot of equipment in the house running beta software, and I'm not sure I want to deal with potential issues with my phone, still the most important piece of communications hear I own.
     
  19. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    You can jailbreak/unlock a phone with out having to run beta os/roms. It just allows more flexibility...it even increases the phones resale value. :)
    Unlocking Blackberrys is very easy (there are many unlocking companies), Android phones can vary in complexity to unlock. I don't know the procedure for iphones.
    Now there is a app that can be downloaded to a Blackberry (for a small fee that is about the same that unlock companies charge) that will help to unlock a Blackberry. It's a very common practice.
     
  20. Lee L

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    They will do this for most other phones, but they absolutely, positively will not do it for the iPhone.
     

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