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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 23, 2009.
Definitely agree with that.
So no word on the new TiVo box then?
Nope, I'm guessing CES2010 will be our next bit of information .. No DIRECTV TiVo there will speak volumes .. If there is a DIRECTV TiVo there, then folks should be able to get a more definitive timeline (even if it's still generalized). There are a few folks here that will be @ CES2010 so we should know one way or the other.
Well, as it turns out I am going to CES, I'll be staying in the Las Vega Hilton so I can stagger there and back whenever I need to and I will certainly pester the bah-jeez-essss out of the TiVo folks to get information. Ok, not so strong of an approach, but I will make it known how curious I am to know, you know?
...if you can find the TiVo folks. They were in a very quiet, secluded little meeting room this past January. Of the three moderators who went, I think I was the only one who made it there.
I'll be hungry to find them.
Be sure to pick up some of that Tivo-branded hand sanitizer if they have it. It really works! (and it doesn't pop up an ad when you pause between applications :lol
Does it make the popcorn sound when you depress it?
Several of us will try to hunt them down....
Camera will be in hand, of course...
FanBoy, that will be my Primary Task at CES, to hunt down The New MPEG-4 DIRECTIVO HR30-1000 DVR as I am going to buy one as soon as they come out in Q3 2010.
Or it may be the HR30-750 hopefully in Q2 2010 but I think it will be Q3 2010 and that is where my money is!
Who knows if Q3 is viable speculation. Recruiting for Beta hasn't started as of December 11.
Q1 has been the general speculation for a while, but it's looking more and more like Q1 is gonna get passed by as well .. CES2010 should help answer the question.
If remember correctly when the last HD DirecTV came out years ago. . .
Correct me if I am wrong, I think it came out in March but only those that pre orded could get them as 1,000s wanted them but they only shipped a few hundred. The web site with the owner named Robert was doing pre orders back then. I dont remember the site.
April is when I got mine. By June most could get them. They were about $900+ back then and they were selling like crazy. Image this time if they are say $200 or $400 under the lease upgrade plan.
MY PREDICTION: Released at the the exact Same Time line as last time is my prediction for the new DirecTV HD Tivo 2nd gen. These dates line up with CES perfectly and the same Marketing Team at DirecTV is probably still there, they will want to repeat the success and the free hype and excitement.
Sadly, I believe you are correct. I can't imagine, that in the next 90 days, I'll be able to call DirecTv and say..."I'd like one of your new Tivo boxes please, make it two!"
I'm not trying to define fair use because as we know that's very subjective. With that said you made a statement claiming that you can't copy something from disk to disk. I'm saying that's out and out wrong. The DMCA made it illegal to break the copy encryption on DVDs movies ect. There is nothing illegal with recording something from OTA HD onto any type of personal disk. Whether it be a hard drive or DVD style disk. It's also not illegal to make another copy of it for personal use. It is illegal to share via P2P ect. The same applies to cable channels. I've had a Tivo that burns DVD's for years for example. I'm not claiming content owners don't have the right to license the shows to directv in a certain way. Nor does Directv have to provide us with the means to do it. However they are required to obey our laws and regulation concerning selective output controls and other regs that apply to them. They must constantly weigh the balance of consumers demands and content owner demands. Now with the cable and sat companies becoming so involved in the content side I dare say the consumers are in for a rough ride. I mean seriously how long has MRV been on beta a year now?
Um, just to inform you on what happened with the first HD Tivos.. They where shipped 9 months LATE (ok, may have even big longer, but I believe it ended up being 9 months late) from what was originally expected.. I know this because I worked for a retailer and I talked to my buyer many times about that puppy, and it was really late.. Believe me, it wasn't timed to come out when it actually did on purpose....The only thing I had ever seen delayed longer from Directv was the SRHD500, The first HD boxes from DIrectv that had an integrated OTA and Sat guide.... That was delayed over a year...
!rolling Ok, will do...
I know, I'll be like a tourist snappy photos of everything. Gotta get those pictures on here for everyone to see too.
I was the First Person to receive an HR10-250 from Robert at valueelectronics.com because I was early on the Pre-Order List and I had it shipped Overnight Express to me and I Activated it on April 12, 2004 at 9:00 A.M.
I again will buy another one as soon as I hear they are available.
Oh, then I simply wasn't clear .. You cannot (legally) copy from the HR2x or new TiVo HDD directly to your Computer Disk (or other media) for direct use. I was trying to define fair use and simply stating that it's not as broad as one might think .. You are coming at it from the other side and saying that certain things are fair use regardless of technology .. Yes, certain things are fair use .. but my point is that NOT EVERYTHING is fair use We're making two entirely different points it seems.