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The official Pac-12 discussion thread

Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    That's what they say, but it may not be what they do...
     
  2. Mariah2014

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    I agree, but it will take them a year or a lot longer to change that tune.
     
  3. kick4fun

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    I won't hold my breath..
     
  4. Mariah2014

    Mariah2014 Breaking the mold

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    Which is why I did what I did when I did it. I was reading something about the time warner and nfl deal and some saying that some place had to of frozen over for that deal to occur. I think that is what will have to occur here as well. At least I only missed the first two weekends and will get to enjoy the pac 12 game at 3pm today.
     
  5. kick4fun

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    That ridiculous offer that Directv just made was from Dan York, Derek Chang's replacement back in May... Chang was a Stanford Alum and was the programming chief from 2006 or so.. Now we have this clown, York who previously worked in top posts at In Demand Networks and HBO for Att Uverse.. Not sure if we'll ever see a good offer..
     
  6. Mariah2014

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    Yea, I bet. He would probably sign up the all clown network or the all granny channel. He is a clown and as such probably won't hold the post very long unless he changes his ways and goes to a real school to learn how to it properly. Safe to say, he ain't know Stanford alum.
     
  7. sigma1914

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    ATT UVerse...who has a ton of HD people been demanding here. Also, Changs still there for the rest of the year. He wasn't at "HBO for Att Uverse" he was at both.
     
  8. Carl Spock

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    Do you really think the fact that Derek Chang is a Stanford alum would have made a difference?

    On deals involving this much money, if it had, he would have deserved to be fired.

    Even still, from what was said upthread, Chang is still in a position to affect the negotiations with the PAC-12. If he was going to look more favorably upon a deal with the PAC-12 because he graduated from Leland Snodfart Junior University, he has had plenty of chances to do it. He hasn't. Whatever DirecTV's stance is, it is obviously a corporate one and isn't affect by the schools these guys attended.
     
  9. kick4fun

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    Sorry, I meant both.. I still think he is a clown, but that's my opinion.. Nothing like Chang who made Directv really stand out.. I believe Chang is more on the sidelines and not really making the deals.. That offer that was made, screams Dan York. PPV??? Nah!
     
  10. kick4fun

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    I kinda do believe being a Stanford Alum, he might have had a little heart into the matter.. He is known for being a real tough negotiator, but fair..
     
  11. Mariah2014

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    Probably why we have started to see some of that HD instead of the pac 12 network.
     
  12. kick4fun

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    No matter what, we all love to discuss the Pac12 stuff. And despite our differences, I love you all.. :) Off to go watch my COUGS beat up on Colorado... Gotta love the Pac12.
     
  13. Carl Spock

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    If this is true, then Derek Chang wishes he had you across the negotiating table from him. You'd let your heart affect your head.

    A real tough negotiator would be playing you like an opposing defensive lineman sucked into the backfield on a screen play.

    Actually, if you change your "kinda do believe" to "wish", I agree with you. As I've said many times in this thread, I, too, want the PAC-12, badly. But wishing Chang would be more lenient in negotiations because of his old school ties will never happen.
     
  14. Carl Spock

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    We're in the middle of negotiations. You act like they are over. Things could break next week or even next month.

    Plus I'm sure the decision to add these new HD channels was made a while ago, before the start of the football season.

    The best negotiating is like playing chicken. In this case, neither side has veered and the two cars have crashed, but it is a slow motion crash. Only the front grills and bumpers have been affected so far, and they are barely dented. In a few weeks, we'll start crumpling the fenders of the two cars. But even if there is a settlement next month, the crash will be stopped and both sides will be able to drive away without any major damage.
     
  15. James Long

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    As president of Content and Advertising Sales for AT&T, York developed the content strategy and offering for AT&T U-verse and oversaw AT&T's content activities across all of its platforms, including TV, online and mobile, which serves more than 100 million customers. In six years, he helped build U-verse from zero to more than $8 billion in annualized revenue while managing billions of dollars in content expense.

    York was previously head of Programming and Development for In Demand Networks, the leading VOD, PPV, and sports provider. Before that he worked for 12 years at HBO, most recently managing the distribution, marketing, sponsorship, and select content acquisitions and programming operations for HBO's Sports PPV business.

    York holds master's and bachelor's degrees from Michigan State University.​
    MSU is a decent school and it seems that Mr York has managed to have some success in his past. I suspect that Mr Chang is still at work with the "thoughtful transition" to Mr York ... and Mike White is still at the top overseeing it all.
     
  16. kick4fun

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    I don't care about his resume, he's a clown who's offer to PAC 12 is disrespectful!
     
  17. sigma1914

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    Seems a little self centered of yourself to judge someone based on not getting a TV channel. Forget the other additions; it's all about YOU and Pac12 Network fans? Some of you take this too serious.
     
  18. Carl Spock

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    Yikes!

    No red nose? I'm disappointed.
     
  19. Hoosier205

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    You're basing your assessment upon one occurrence that you have limited knowledge of while lacking the full context?
     
  20. kick4fun

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    Let me get this straight, its ok to showcase Big10 games and have higher fees than Pac12 offers??? .... Ok I'm more than biased, but that ala carte offer is ridiculous..
     

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