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The official Pac-12 discussion thread

Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    In spite of my writing of your hyperbole and incessant posting about Pac12, I am all for anyone switching to whatever provider at any time. Just as long as it's a thought out process and that exaggerations or misrepresentations (inadvertent, I am sure!) don't lead to false conclusions for others.

    Truly, I am happy for those who want to follow every game of their University's teams, and that there is an avenue now for that.
     
  2. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    ok, so this is what Dish has.. One SD and one HD feed.. not sure which one is regional or national.. When the games begin, each alternate will open up in HD for the game...
     
  3. woj027

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    Wow, that sounds like a pretty limited offering, I wonder if that's what was "similarly" offered to DirecTV.
     
  4. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    But you see, that's how I have felt toward your postings.. But hey, to each their own.. It sounds like a few of us have finally started to realize Pac12 wasn't happening. The Quality is very good on Dish. In the end, it really comes down to programming.. This was a no brainer for me.. Maybe we can all put the back and forth to rest and hopefully Pac12 comes to Directv so that everyone can enjoy. Cheers!
     
  5. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    I'm sure it was, but my thought is Directv may go in a different direction all together with the sports channels demanding more and more $$.. Pac12 Networks are a good product, but Directv has so much to consider with the Lakers, Sec etc.. Good luck!
     
  6. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    For clarification:

    What DISH has is the national feed on channel 413 with a HD feed (also on 413) that is used for selected events. It is not a 24/7 national feed (although there is a lot more in HD on PAC 12 than on any other DISH RSN other than Big10).

    The alternate channels for PAC-12 are on channels 5453-5460 ... four SD feeds and four HD feeds. As I write this "WSOC: USC at Arizona St." and "WSOC: Oregon at Cal" are on the alts and "WSOC: Washington at Colorado" is on 413. (At 9pm ET/6pm CT there are three different volleyball matches, one on main and two on alts.)

    Is there another game in progress that is being missed?

    The "national" plus six regional mix feeds are designed for cable. The national feed will carry the most important games while the regionals will branch off to carry other games of interest to that region. Perhaps "down the road" there will be more variety on the seven channels but for now, PAC12 does not have enough conflicting content to put something different on all seven channels. A national feed and alts carries all the broadcast content they have.
     
  7. donm

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    Even most of the cable providers don't offer the National and all 6 regional feeds. I think there are just a few cable providers that do offer all 7 feeds. Some do by giving the national and your regional feed and puts the rest in a sports tier or doesn't offer them at all. Each provider has a different setup. It doesn't sound like Directv would carry much more then the National and alts similar to Dish unless they were all in a stand alone package but you never know until the deal is done.
     
  8. BusterAvis

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    Officially another month gone without a deal.
    I wonder what Pac 12's strategy will be in October.
    No deal in August, no deal in September, so let's see if they change their offer in October.

    Will it be an October-Fest for Pac 12 fans with DirecTV?
     
  9. Mariah2014

    Mariah2014 Breaking the mold

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    It is virtually safe to say it won't happen this year.
     
  10. FlyBono24

    FlyBono24 Godfather

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    Yup, looks like I'll be looking for an internet stream for tomorrow's UCLA game.

    DirecTV, "Leader in sports", my ass...:rolleyes::nono2:
     
  11. WebTraveler

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    Buster, give it up....Directv is not coming on board and Pac 12 is not going to alter the deal. They cannot w/o repercussions with the other distributors. Fact remains that the market price is clearly established. The deal is on the table that is the same with the other providers.

    Don't you see - we are not important to Directv. Until/unless a large number of people switch to other providers - for this very reason - will Directv change it's stance.

    There is a new Sheriff in town and he's Michael White. He doesn't care about anyone except himself and his executive team and the large compensation they get and his own ego. He cleaned house at Directv and everyone else be damned. While I certainly hope he tanks Directv to the tank, for the moment Wall Street likes what they see. He's hoping for a merger, however, and that I don't expect to happen.


     
  12. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    And there are new Deputies...

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/colleg...of-directv-deal-anytime-soon-and-other-notes/
    "Since then, I’ve followed up with industry contacts and become even more convinced that a summertime shakeup in DTV’s corporate structure played a central role in the negotiations going sideways just before the season.

    In particular, I’m referring to the departure of Derek Chang, the Executive VP for Content Strategy and Development, who is viewed as a tough but fair negotiator (and is also a Stanford alum)."



    That is why I've decided, per the suggestions of Maartena, that we have to move on.. This isn't a knock on Directv, just that if you want programming you need to look elsewhere which it sounds like some of are finally doing so..
     
  13. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    Chang is still there until the end of the year according to reports.
     
  14. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    I read that and I certainly don't know the scope of his influence, but one might think the new leadership wants to make their own decisions.
     
  15. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    I can't help but really laugh at this.. I counted 3 games for the Cougs on ESPNU...
    http://www.wsucougars.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/wast-m-baskbl-sched.html
    Only a couple of FX, but the rest on Pac12 Networks.. I'm happy to have the Pac12 in HD and watch every single game if I need to.
     
  16. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    They'd rather show good teams on the U, like Arizona. ;)
     
  17. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    :gott:
     
  18. sdk009

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    Final from Tucson: Oregon St. 38
    U of A 35

    Sooo Close
     
  19. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    We were talking basketball. UofA football just frustrates me too much. :lol:
     
  20. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    I watched the Arizona game as well last night.. The Hopper has PIP and I could see both that game and of course my WSU game. Both in beautiful HD and I thought Arizona looked really good.. Btw, their dark blue unis were cool. I love this Pac12 thing. I switched back and forth and thought it was so much fun.
     

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