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The official Pac-12 discussion thread

Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by Stuart Sweet, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 New Member

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    Who needs who more?
     
  2. donm

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    Like I said before in a earlier post. I don't know what you are talking about!!
     
  3. kick4fun

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    That will shed led at some point.. I think PAC12 is doing fine... I'm sure they would love to have DIRECTV.


    They put their product out there and have quite a few people paying for it... Eventually I believe Directv will come back asking what it might take to have the privilege to show Pac12..
     
  4. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    Playing their own fiddle... :)
     
  5. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    Who? A CSR?
     
  6. Mariah2014

    Mariah2014 Breaking the mold

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    Somewhere...
    Not from the csr's.
     
  7. Carl Spock

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    I would be shocked if anyone who is "affiliated" with DirecTV had any idea of what is going on with the inner details of their negotiations with PAC 12.

    We saw a lot of mis-information during the Viacom negotiations, much of it coming from inflammatory Twitter posts made by people who said they were speaking for DirecTV. It was only when these leaks stopped that negotiations got serious and the issue was solved.

    If you really have some inside information from DirecTV's upper management, let us know, mshaw2715. Otherwise, you are no different than a fan at a game yelling at the coach from the stands, telling him that was a stupid play he called.
     
  8. TheRatPatrol

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    When you think about all of this its just so damn frustrating. As others have said, you would think the Pac 12 (and TWCSN) would want some money from D* rather then no money at all. Its a shame it all has to come down to greed.

    But then again I can't let this get to me, its only TV.
     
  9. BusterAvis

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    DirecTV must be losing more and more subscribers lately.
    They just recently offered Pac-12 not one, but "TWO" offers over the past 24 hours, and the Pac-12 conference "rejected" both offers.

    The fact DirecTV gave the Pac-12 two offers, tells me that DirecTV does want to make a deal to get the network (because they must be losing more customers with each passing day now) ....

    http://www.vcstar.com/news/2012/sep/20/carlisle-pac-12-networks-directtv-cant-reach-a/
     
  10. Hoosier205

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    That article doesn't mention when the offers were made or when they were turned down.
     
  11. BusterAvis

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    Yes it did, read it again (article was dated 9/20) ....

    "DirecTV said Thursday it had proposed offering the Pac-12 Network as a stand-alone channel before this weekend's games for anyone who wanted to subscribe to it, and also proposed allowing customers to buy future games on an on-demand basis until the situation was worked out, but that the Pac-12 had rejected both offers."

    "It's regrettable and unfortunate, but Pac-12 keeps denying these few exclusive games to the people who really want them the most," DirecTV said in a statement."


    "The Pac-12 Networks rejected two offers by DirecTV to carry the new channels, fairly assuring that Saturday's USC-California game will not be available on that system."
     
  12. kick4fun

    kick4fun Godfather

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    A little more perspective.....

    "Buying games on-demand for the Pac-12? Do they think we're watching boxing matches?

    There was no way the Pac-12 was ever going to accept this deal on face value. It basically makes the Pac-12 a pay-per-view package that would isolate it to only the most diehard and wealthy of their uses, and that certainly doesn't run in the line with the same plan the Pac-12 put in the place with the rest of their providers. This was a bone thrown out by DirecTV to provide the apparition of an olive branch, only to be burned by the Pac-12 when they realized it was just a snake."


    http://www.pacifictakes.com/2012/9/21/3367058/pac-12-network-directv-plan-rejected
     
  13. Hoosier205

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    It was offered as a temporary solution until the situation was resolved and the PAC-12 Network team walked away. It was DirecTV making good faith efforts to work this out, while the PAC-12 continues to overvalue their worth for the foreseeable future after this weekend.
     
  14. maartena

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    There's a few peeps at my work that switched to cable. And they are now laughing at me by the way because I guaranteed them DirecTV would make a deal. :D

    Other than that, I haven't heard a thing. They have had some friends over last weekend who wanted to watch certain games but couldn't.

    I think they are probably starting to lose patience, but with many games being on national networks, switching may be too drastic. Which is a win for DirecTV.
     
  15. Hoosier205

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    It's hilarious that anyone would believe that a new channel with limited content and appeal would have any meaningful impact on churn. A fraction of less than 1% of DirecTV's 20 million customers will leave over not having PAC-12. Some people leave over losing extremely popular and successful channels, this...ain't one of those times.
     
  16. kick4fun

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    That's ridiculous.. "GOOD FAITH"??? I don't see that at all.. This product is not an ALA CARTE product.. Maybe Directv is seeing the effects of holding out and perhaps is rethinking their strategy..
     
  17. kick4fun

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    The Pac12 Faithful are leaving because this is important to them. I watched a little of the Big10 network this morning and thought it wasn't special to me, but hey for BIG10 fans I get it.. The Pac12 Networks looks very similar to me, having watching a little of the Pac12 Networks via streaming.

    I find it hilarious that you keep criticizing a product you haven't even seen nor have any affiliation like the people on the West Coast who live and die by their teams..
     
  18. kick4fun

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    A win for Directv? Not sure yet... Pac12 doesn't have to agree to Directv's attempt at getting coverage with the little bone they threw out.. Jury is still out
     
  19. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    Some of you were saying you're willing to pay for it, DirecTV tried to please you but the Pac12 rejected. P12 knows not enough people want their channel and are out for money. This is more proof ala carte is bogus.
     
  20. kick4fun

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    I'm not so sure the offer Directv was showing was really trying to please us, but rather stop any future exodus of customers and retaining some leverage in negotiations.. I agree the Ala Carte is bogus.. Both sides are feuding over an enormous amount of money..
     

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