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Discussion in 'DIRECTV DVR with TiVo Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Dec 6, 2011.
There's a grid guide as well, it looks just like the one on the HR10.
SD graphics, No 3D, older hardware, no whole-home, etc. I just can't help but think this thing is DOA.
Who exactly is the target market for this? It's not early adopters/cutting edge as it's a step backwards in many respects. It's not high-end auto/videophiles. It's not even the unwashed masses as they are content with the standard DirecTV boxes - what would compel them to pay additional for this?
There are actually a lot of people who are holding on to old DIRECTV/TiVo boxes who want HD but don't want to lose the TiVo experience. This is aimed toward them.
I really miss my old DTiVo. I loved the UI, sound effects, suggestions, and the peanut. However, there is no way that I could ever consider buying one of these without the whole-home DVR service working with my other HR2x-xxx DVRs. I think this was a huge miss. Thinking back to the old DTiVo days, the major reason that anyone hacked the boxes was to add the MRV function back in. Why would I go back???
I really like all the work the DirecTV has done with the HR series. If the TiVo model is ever enhanced to catch up I'll be first in line.
Yes, I have 2 of them sitting in my Upstairs Bedroom Closet.
I must go upstairs and Dust them off now that I am thinking about them. :lol:
ok, here is my "not for me" post. My fiance intruduced me to the DVR with his R10 (I think it was) SD TiVo, way back when. We moved in together and have HR22's and up and a couple R22's and love them and we would not want to switch to TiVo. But For all those who patiently waited and "put up with" the DirecTv DVRs. Congrats and cheers from me and my fiance. ENJOY
I wonder if they were active and "something happened" if you would get an HR20 or THR22 as a replacement???
I would consider one, but no Kidzone and MRV are dealbreakers.
I could live without some of the cool features like netflix, etc.
I already got 2 HR23-700s FREE as a Replacement for them back when they were trying to get everyone who had an MPEG-2 DVR to convert to an MPEG-4 DVR.
They told me to keep the Legacy HR10-250s as they didn't want them back.
Tivo looks like a HUGE disappointment for how long it took. That's like Microsoft releasing windows 7 on a PII 400mhz tower. The hardware looks like total garbage.
Copy from other thread, didnt see this thread before I posted. Reposting here.
Somewhat dissappointed. I, like everyone else have been waiting for this Tivo box to finally arrive. Unfortunately, during the wait, being disgruntled with Directv's service or lack thereof, and overpaying IMO, I have since switched to cable. The bonus by doing this for me besides paying a much cheaper rate, was I would finally get to ditch my much hated Directv boxes and get one of the new Tivo boxes. But I have still always kept an eye on Directv/Tivo to see when this box would arrive and what it would have.
I can tell you that from what I have read, its not Tivo that has been stuck behind, its Directv holding them back. I cannot believe that we have all waited this long, 3 years or more, for old hardware that they allready had, and an interface that is unchanged from what we are all familiar with. It makes me wonder what they were actually doing for three years.
Things that my cable tivo has that IMO should have been included on the Directivo box are things like, Netflix, Blockbuster, Amazon, you tube instant streaming. Pandora radio, HD interface which DOES play video in the corner while you browse. I can search for shows that arent just coming up on tv, but for shows or movies that are available on any of the streaming sites and it will tell you who has them. For example, if I want to watch episode 2 of season 2 of Modern Family, and its not on tv, it will tell me that Hulu has it, or netflix, or whoever, then I can tell it to watch it on Hulu, and it starts playing it. The new box also has whole house capability, including being able to download shows on your pc and move them to your Ipad or Iphone. All this features should have IMO made it on this new box. So IMO directv has crippled this machine, because the new Cable Tivos do so much more than what this shows, its simply embarassing. I dont know how else to put it.
I am thinking about going your route and getting a Tivo. Which version did you get and are there deals out there?
I would have been all over the TiVo implementation if it had MRV or what you are calling Whole Home. I had Whole Home with DirecTV with a TiVo interface from 2002 until 2008. Then DirecTV came out with program listing changes that made the DirecTiVo miss recordings when running 6.2a software. Only upgrading to 6.4 would cure it at the time. 6.4 would not support MRV or Whole Home. So since the Series 3 TiVo was out, and we finally had HD cable in our neighborhood, I switced to Cable with TiVo Series 3 DVRs and of course had the capability to get any program recorded in any room as well as on any computer. I remember taking a particular Xmas program to the kids house to watch since they did not have a DVR at the time.
We now travel full time and our best alternative is Satellite, so I sold the Series 3 Boxes, dusted off the old DirecTiVo boxes and have been enjoying Whole Home in our travel trailer readily viewing any recorded program on either of out DirecTiVo units.
Deleted Folders, are you kidding? If it were not for deleted folders I would be dead now. I cannot count how many times one or the other of us has decided that our spouse has watched some program and deleted it. So we have had deleted folders since 2002. In the DirecTiVo you access the deleted programs using a computer application called TiVoWebPlus. In the Series 3 it is a regular folder like the recycle bin on a computer.
I can tell you the one single reason that TiVo is so popular. WAF Wife Acceptance Factor. Spartanstew has been kind enough to share his experience with the switch from TiVo to HR units. If I were to ask my lovely wife to get used to a new interface and it took her a month, I would shoot myself.
So I will not be getting the THR22. I will get along with SD on these old DirecTiVos until either DirecTV allows TiVo to integrate Whole Home or because it is TiVo software the folks on Deal Database spend a couple hours and turn out some script to enable it, just like on the old DirecTiVos.
why pay more for DVR functions?
I'd think about it if it was actually a present day Tivo, not last generation's Tivo.
Look what is slowly rolling out to Premiere users.
That's an extra half hour than DirecTV's HDUI. DirecTV would of displayed 6am till 7am in that view with 6 channels down the side. This 8 channels with 2 full hours in view is nicer and showcases the HD aspect ratio better. A little more wow factor while proving a more efficient utilization of the screen's pixels.
Then you have Tivo Premiere's new mini-guide.
Much nicer than DirecTV's blue button mini-guide. You see again 4 half hour blocks but by 3 channels. Also the selected channel logo and more information like the rating, season and episode numbers. I dislike there's really no "visibility" with DirecTV's blue button mini-guide. 1 channel is displayed... how is that a guide??? Sometimes I'd like to browse whats on but I don't want to push the current program into a tiny thumbnail window in the upper corner of the screen.
These little changes would of made it worth it IMO. DirecTV's HDUI is nice, but if Tivo really wanted to push units it should run the modern day interface. I'd probobly buy it then. Oh well we all lose out. Tivo lost customers and we lose out because we can't have the "good" Tivo and DirecTV at the same time. If only the Tivo Premiere came out with a USB interface or something that you could connect it up to an HR24 and utilize it's tuners.
Um, you do realize the hardware is DirecTV's HR22 box - just with Tivo software on it.
I had a Tivo since they first rolled off the assembly line and really liked it. I switched to the HR series because there was no other option for mpeg4. As others have stated, the HR series has grown in features, and can do as much or more than Tivo ever could. For me things like SP limits and suggestions are a non issue. So overall I have been more than happy with the HRs for quite a while.
However, on the flip side, DirecTV keeps adding more and more 'bloat' to the DVRs. I have no need for Youtube, Pandora, Media Share, Widgets, etc., etc., as I have other equipment that does those functions a LOT better.
So if Tivo at least had MRV, I might consider it. What I want is a DVR that does just that - record and play back shows, nothing more, nothing less. And it should be blazingly fast.
I am one that said, some years ago, this new HRxx is a piece of crap. But now i would not give up my HR receivers for this new pie in the sky TIVO.
There is a lot of work to be done on this new TIVO unit until i would transition back to the TIVO model. Give me 90 minute buffers, MRV, and the ability to access music and photos from my computer and we may talk. But until then they can let this thing sit on the shelf and rot...
I just wanted to pass along my thoughts after using a THR22 for a couple of weeks. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I understand that everyone's likes and needs are different. I'm just passing along my particular experiences.
I really missed my old DirecTiVo, or at least I thought I did. As I stated in an earlier posting, I ordered a THR22 just as soon as I could. It does do exactly what it is supposed to do, and it does it perfectly, but, with time, I found that I really liked my HR24-500 much better.
I don't use MRV, it was other things. For example, and perhaps because I'm a little older now, I find that I have to strain my eyes a bit to read the text on the TiVo guide. The guide on the HR24-500 is brighter and easier to see. While I also have access to Pandora on my Blu-ray player, its a little easier to access it through the DVR. I especially missed things such as Quicktune, easier 'one button' recording, quick access to the "View Upcoming" information, which I use quite often, and a number of other features which quickly added up to convince me to go back to my HR24-500.
I suppose its a bit like having fond memories of a girlfriend from the distant past whom I meet again for a date. I still see those things in her that initially enchanted me, but I (and technology) have moved on and she has remained the same. I wish her, and TiVo, the very best.