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Discussion in 'General Satellite Discussion' started by Nick, Feb 19, 2007.
I am in no way an anti corporate hippie. I typically support big business, I'm loyal as a the day is long to Microsoft, WalMart gets a good portion of my paycheck and I'll be damned if I fill my tank up with anything but Mobil gas but as a subscriber to both XM and Sirius I feel I have valid reasons for being against the merger. I was also against the Sprint/Nextel merger and I've already experienced the negatives from that.
Going dual sub in a vehicle really isn’t that much of a hassle. The initial install can be a little tricky figuring out placement and how to run wires but it makes for a nice Saturday project
XM Delphi Roady XT - $50
Sirius Starmate 4 - $70
Dual Input Auxiliary Adaptor - $80
138 commercial free music channels - PRICELESS
Going dual sub at home now is easy. Both Onkyo and Sony now offer both XM and Sirius tuners integrated into their home theater receivers.
Going dual sub at home now is easy. Both Onkyo and Sony now offer both XM and Sirius tuners integrated into their home theater receivers.[/QUOTE]
My new Denon 4308 is "XM Ready", but you still have to buy a little gadget called a XM Mini Tuner and a home dock, that looks like it plugs into a proprietary jack on the back of the receiver. I can't see how this is any better than plugging my Pioneer Inno into the audio jacks, other than a display on the GUI. Are other "XM Ready" receivers better than this? To me "Ready" should mean you get a subscription and plug in the antenna - do the ONkyo's and Sony's have built in Tuners? .
I should have said XM and Sirius Ready, yes you need either the Connect N Play antenna or the new Passport for XM and the Sirius equivalent. IMO, this is very cool and I'd rather have it like this then what you suggest. With the XM Passport system, the minituner gets activated not the receiver, so if you get another device, replace the receiver or whatever all you have to do is plug in the minituner and boom you’ve got XM, also you can swap it between multiple devices with only one subscription.
Also this provides better sound quality and if you have a Neural capable receiver, not only will you get the XMHD stations in 5.1, but you’ll also get better stereo separation. I have XM integrated in my Sony HT receiver, and I’d never go back to a plug and play receiver.
The pending merger of Sirius and XM appears to have received support in the form of a legal precedent resulting from a court decision in an entirely unrelated industry when a federal judge ruled last week against governmental attempts to block a proposed merger between two organic foods companies, Whole Foods and Wild Oats.
In a decision that rejected the government's claim that the organic foods industry merger would create an anti-competitive marketplace, the precedent established in the court's ruling is being viewed as potentially helpful to the satellite radio merger effort.
While it may seem like satellite radio and organic foods have nothing to do with one another, industry observers have noted that the two mergers have some very real similarities.
Analysts following the merger of Whole Foods and Wild Oats say that while organic foods is a specialized segment, it is still a part of the overall supermarket business. For example, traditional supermarket chains carry a growing selection of organic products on their shelves.
As such, satellite radio is also a part of the overall audio entertainment sector, with Sirius and XM indeed competing with traditional radio, mobile services, internet radio and iPods.
In theory, the Whole Foods decision could bolster positive sentiment on Wall Street and on Capitol Hill about the prospects of a Sirius/XM merger. Further, the decision could generate confidence within the companies that even if the government attempts to block the merger, XM and Sirius could find favorable treatment within the courts.
Adapted from SkyReports.com
I don't like this type of news :raspberry Of course, thank you Nick for posting because we do need all the information about the merger I just don't like what I'm reading
I'm just the messenger!
That's why I put the smile with the thanks for posting I didn't want you to think the :raspberry was meant for you :lol:
The willingness of the few to pay $50 for two services to get all the content and exclusives doesn't exactly fall in the category of consumer choice. It falls into the category of your personal convenience.
I can sympathize with not wanting to lose what you've got, since you can afford it, but the plans and prices offered look as if they are actually going to be good for consumers. Forcing choice between two existing entities in the same space is not actually letting the marketplace decide.
Lets not forget that there are other options (free radio, HD radio, and other subscription services that use different business models). If this combined XM/Sirius entity doesn't take care of those consumers, not only are people going to go elsewhere, but other companies are going to compete and beat them in their own space. THAT is where you get consumer choice.
Former FCC Chairman, Mark Fowler, Calls for Approval of Satellite Radio Merger
I asked a person with a legal anti-trust/communications background about the merger. The person felt the merger would be done :crying:
we will know in 60 days if this thing passes thats what all-access is saying
60 days :eek2: What is "all-access"
But I pay $50 a month for three XM subscriptions, two Sirius subscriptions and Sirius Internet Radio Premium. Full subscription to either service is staying the same price, subscriptions to both services are staying the same price. The amount of people that will be saving money on this will not be that great, how many of the current 14+ million subscribers out there are even willing to shell out cash for a new interoperable receiver just to get a Sirius or XM channel that they might like and maybe save three cents monthly?
They are options, but that doesn't mean they're good ones. I'll never go back to commercial filled terrestrial radio, analog or digital, I have an iPod but I can' discover new content on that, and I have Music Choice on digital cable, but I can't exactly take that with me.
XM and Sirius have given me everything I ever wanted and much more when it comes to audio entertainment. It's the competition between the two that keeps then great. Like I said before, want to see what satellite radio would be like without competition? Worldspace.com
we will know in 30 days http://www.siriusbackstage.com/2007/09/06/merger-decision-expected-within-30-days/
Thanks for the link Apparently it won't be 100% finished in 30 days, but it does sound like the merger will be approved :crying:
Sirius Soars on Deal Chatter
We shall see.