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Thinking about getting D*. Got ?'s

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by tsduke, Oct 13, 2008.

  1. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    eSATA is nothing like external support on the DISH receivers. DISH allows you to move the drive relatively freely between HD DVRs and it doesn't wipe your scheduling preferences to swap and/or add new drives as often as you want.
    Which is why I said "may". Better to give likely scenario versus best case scenario.
    I asked about the AAA discount and referral bonus program not too long ago and was told that they were not available outside of the direct sales channel. I'll ask again.

    The DIRECTV website says the following:
    The AAA website says the following:
    A relatively small sample of a very small subset of the population.

    In the context of someone coming from elsewhere, the perspectives of a longtime DIRECTV subscriber may not be any more valuable than someone with alternative experience.
     
  2. tcusta00

    tcusta00 Active Member

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    You sound like a politician with your "may" and loose comparisons.

    In what context do the perspectives of a Dish customer dispensing information about DirecTV become valuable? :scratchin :confused:
     
  3. houskamp

    houskamp Active Member

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    Last I knew you couldn't use dish's external for recording space at all... your stuck with the little drive to record your shows and having to sit and wait to copy anything to the external manualy... The beauty of the Directv esata is the ability to up your live recording space to 2 tb... you can go on vacation for 2 weeks+ and it won't fill up and start deleting your stuff..
     
  4. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    Dish charges for using an external drive, Directv doesn't... even if it is a one time fee... Unless this has change lately...

    Also, Dish is set up more as a archive for the external is it not? Directv is meant to simply make you system able to record more... Its seemless...

    External does not in any way wipe out programs if you remove the drive and then plug it back in latter... Prefrences are stored on each drive seperatly.... for that drive...

    And you sometimes seem to write things as fact rather than opinion... Dish's multi room feature is completely worthless to me... It limits the machines capabilityes, and only ouitputs sd to the second room, which is completely unacceptable for me, so I don't like it at all.... Doesn't mean I'd tell people its not good for them... I'd ask them their setuip and how they use the system first before I'd tell them what they may or may not like... And I noticed you didn't mention that when Directv implements MRV it will blow DIshes SD second room output out of the water either.... :D


    ANd your other comments have already been commented on, but you really need to stop telling people that the HRs are hinky or whatever, considering you've never owned one... Not once have I ever told anyone that Dish hardware isn't any good, as you seem to like to do about Directv... I read the Dish forums enough to see that a LOT of people have hardware issues over there too... I have yet to see you call Diosh hardware Hinky...

    From what the OP has said so far,sounds like he is going to like DIrectv a lot better for 2 reasons... Locals in HD and sports, assuming hes getting a sports sub that Dish doesn't have...

    Until he tells us what he has now, how he uses it, and what hes ordered, we can't really tell him anything about what he may or may not like after the switch...

    Frankly he mentioned the only two things that I believe really make a difference in choosing between the two providers right now.. HD LIL and sports subs....
     
  5. tsduke

    tsduke Godfather

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    --HD lils - even though the local ABC network is using the HD channel as leverage for a new deal with Direct so I will be short one for now. I have OTA for to cover for now.
    --NFL-ST

    --MLB channel in 2009. Maybe MLB EI. Dish will not have either.

    --I know it cost more for lease fees, but I want the main functionality of the receiver at each TV. Not the limited tv2 output.

    --I'm tired of seeing channels fall off Dish because of failed contract negotiations. In comparison I rarely see channels go dark on Direct.

    --Hoping for better PQ on HD channels.

    I will admit. I will probably miss the Dish's VIP722.
     
  6. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    When the fanboys and apologists only offer the party line with nothing in the way of comparison.
     
  7. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    The DISH external storage feature is something you pay extra for and it is officially available and supported.
    Seamless is not the term I would use. Having to update programming each time you change drives is not seamless and not being able to move the drive to another machine is not particularly seamless.
    No, but eSATA temporarily denies you access to what is on the inactive drive and you have to unplug power and the drive to restore access to the "other" drive. In contrast, the DISH solution doesn't mess with anybody's settings and it allows one to easily archive mass quantities of programs and play them back on the machine that recorded it as well as other machines (and replacement machines if that is necessary).

    With the DIRECTV solution, programming is lost when the associated receiver is replaced and there's no way to view or recover the content.
    While much of it is fact, some is indeed opinion. When it is opinion, I usually say so. It is up to the reader to evaluate the relative importance in their mind
    As the HD DVR was mentioned as a concern, I offered my experience. If you want to get stinky, there are very few that actually "own" an HR2x and you certainly don't have to own one to be familiar with the ins and outs. As for HD LIL, apparently that's not all of it as OTA support is still desired.

    I have to chuckle when you mentioned how kickass DIRECTV's MRV will be -- have you seen it in action? Will it be officially supported in such a manner than anyone can use it?
     
  8. mutelight

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    That sounds about right. The quality of operators that place the orders must have really dropped recently because I had a similar experience. The CSR I dealt with was very rude when I first called up and had a few questions like I was wasting his time. Then once I told him I would like to sign up he lightened up a bit but managed to get my entire order wrong.

    I ordered 1 HD DVR and then 3 HD receivers and not only double checked the order and had him read it back but triple checked to make sure everything was correct. He managed to get an installer out the next day (which was nice) who arrived with a SD DVR, and three standard receivers. Immediately I rang DirecTV and they confirmed that the installer had the gear that was on my order. I explained my case and the lady that was helping me had me put her on the phone with the installer and he was given the go ahead to replace all the receivers with the equipment I wanted.

    Long story short, the installer was a bit of a flake, I ended up making most of the coax runs and finishing the install myself, they got my equipment wrong but I was generously compensated for my troubles. I truly was very close to throwing in the towel until a conflict resolution specialist called me up after a many heated calls to DTV. He was very professional and was the one that offered me the compensation but it is very unfortunate that it had to get to that point. DTV really needs to take a look at their sales people because it looks like I am not the first to have order issues which is vital for them getting new subscribers.

    :rant:
    With all of that said, after all of the issues and being on the verge of dropping the service before it even started, everything is working 100% now and I can't even begin to describe how much happier I am with DTV over my previous provider.
     
  9. braven

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    Pot meet kettle. :rolleyes:
     
  10. tcusta00

    tcusta00 Active Member

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    When did I do that? You offered up only half the story in the post I quoted above so I offered up the other half. It's no wonder you only knew half the story since you're a Dish customer.

    Seems like the OP got the answers he needed anyway, in spite of you.

    Join us next week for our next installment of "Why is the Dish customer attempting to answer questions about DirecTV, right here at DBSTalk!"
     
  11. tsduke

    tsduke Godfather

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    Sorry I started Direct vs Dish war guys. I didn't intend to. I just wanted some constructive info about Direct.
     
  12. David MacLeod

    David MacLeod New Member

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    not your fault, happens often lately. its not actually a bad thing since you can get a lot of info from it.
     
  13. natethegreat

    natethegreat New Member

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    As a new D* dealer I can attest that the AAA discount is the only promo I've seen so far that I can't offer. Yes, we can offer the referral bonus. Maybe not all can, but if I can, there are others as well.
     
  14. IDRick

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    Actually this has been a good thread. Handling of EHD is very different between the two sat companies and it may or may not be an important issue to you. I currently do not sub to either sat service and can see +'s and -"s for both. I think Dish got it right with their EHD approach. One can move the EHD between dvrs and can use multiple EHD's. If the dvr must be returned, the user retains the programming on the EHD but loses what's on the internal HD.

    Direct allows a much larger HD, a good thing that can be a negative if one has to return the dvr or if one has to reset/reformat the dvr. I don't know the relative frequency or probability of having to return dvrs or resetting/reformatting. To me, it is a huge negative to potentially lose archive files for either event. Non portability between dvrs is also negative. YMMV.
     
  15. tcusta00

    tcusta00 Active Member

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    No worries... I was just trying to make sure you got the whole story and not bits and pieces from people who don't know enough to tell it. :)
     
  16. IDRick

    IDRick Godfather

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  17. IDRick

    IDRick Godfather

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    I have been a long time member of AAA and would use this discount if I chose D*. I think that it is very unfair of D* to not allow local dealers to provide this discount. I can show a local dealer my card that says I've been a member for 28 years. On line, a person can just use someone else's number and cheat the system.

    I personally would prefer to use local talent but I'm not Bill Gates and can't afford the extra $340 to install D* ($240 discount + $100 savings on second dvr). D* is a tough sell in my DMA because they don't provide locals. Allowing the local retailers to do some installs likely improves their ability to stay in business...
     
  18. tsduke

    tsduke Godfather

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    If the news about Fox News HD lighting up is true it will be one more reason I'll be happy with my switch.
     
  19. tsduke

    tsduke Godfather

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    Well... my install window has come to a close and no sign of the installer. Nor has anyone called.:mad:
     
  20. tcusta00

    tcusta00 Active Member

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    Sorry to hear that... I'd call them and let them know, as you should get a $100 credit (I believe that's the current no call/no show credit).
     

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