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THR22 Asked and Answered thread

Discussion in 'DIRECTV DVR with TiVo Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Nov 30, 2011.

  1. Nov 30, 2011 #1 of 258
    Stuart Sweet

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    Yes, there will be a first look.

    Due to the release schedule of the THR22 and the nature of testing, a first look isn't available on "Day 1." But there will be a first look. The team is already on it. In the meantime, I'm happy to answer whatever questions you have. If any of you have a THR22, feel free to chime in as well.
     
  2. Dec 1, 2011 #2 of 258
    Stuart Sweet

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    Here's what I know so far:

    The TiVo User Interface will be on an otherwise stock HR22-100. If you have an HR22-100, you will not be able to upgrade it yourself.

    There will be TiVo Suggestions, Wishlist Recording and Swivel Search. Swivel Search will only work if the DVR is connected to the internet.

    There will be a Peanut Remote but it is specific to the THR22. The White DIRECTV remote will also operate the THR22.

    There is a Deleted Items folder, and more than 50 season passes.

    There will be support for Music and Photos if your DVR is connected to your LAN. There is an app you can download at TiVo.com for this.

    The interactive channels like ACTIVE and the Scoreguide will work.

    There are two 30-minute buffers.

    eSATA works.

    DBSTalk will not be participating in pre-release testing (CE.)

    Scheduling via directv.com will work. Scheduling through the DIRECTV app "might" work, I'm not sure.

    What isn't supported:
    TVApps
    Youtube
    Netflix
    Pandora
    3D
    GameSearch
    DIRECTV2PC
    Nomad
    Whole-Home
    TiVo KidZone
    Picture-in-Graphics (PIG)
    Front-panel dimming
    DIRECTV App for iPad

    Pricing:
    $199 to lease
    Monthly TiVo Service $5 plus $7 mirroring charge
    HD Access must be on the account

    If you paid for Lifetime TiVo service you can swap the old TiVo receiver without incurring the $5/month TiVo service fee.
     
  3. Dec 1, 2011 #3 of 258
    Stuart Sweet

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    Please feel free to add anything you have learned from your own experience, but please do not rely on rumor and speculation.
     
  4. Dec 6, 2011 #4 of 258
    Stuart Sweet

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    Informational screens, courtesy of engadget.com:

    [​IMG][​IMG]
     
  5. Dec 6, 2011 #5 of 258
    bonscott87

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    Pricing...isn't there also the standard DVR fee per account to pay as well? Basically the fees for this are the same as the DirecTV DVR with the additional $5 Tivo fee, correct?
     
  6. Dec 6, 2011 #6 of 258
    Alan Gordon

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    I said in another thread that I was surprised by the lack of support for 3D, and especially YouTube (YouTube being available on stand-alone TiVos for quite some time), but KidZone is a BIG surprise given that it was announced for the THR22 back when the unit was announced.

    ~Alan
     
  7. Dec 6, 2011 #7 of 258
    Stuart Sweet

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    Right. The regular DVR, mirroring, and HD access fees apply; just add the additional $5 "TiVo Tax."
     
  8. Dec 6, 2011 #8 of 258
    Stuart Sweet

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    I can confirm that KidZone is not part of the THR22. Not from my own eyes but from a very reliable source.
     
  9. Dec 6, 2011 #9 of 258
    Alan Gordon

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    I wasn't doubting you.... just surprised.

    DIRECTV and TiVo to Launch New HD DIRECTV DVR with TiVo Service

    It was clearly stated in the original press release... I'd say maybe it will come later, and it's possible, but given the time since the original press release, it's sad that it's not there from the start.

    I've often said that TiVo KidZone is a GREAT feature for parents... one TiVo should really promote more. Given that the product lacks WHDVR, 3D, YouTube, Netflix, Pandora, etc., it's sad that it's missing a feature that it was announced to have.

    ~Alan
     
  10. Dec 6, 2011 #10 of 258
    Stuart Sweet

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    Yes, it was in the original press release. I remember it well. Unfortunately, forward facing statements, blah, blah, press release, blah, blah, unexpected circumstances, you know.

    So far I'm not hearing that it will come later, but lines of communication to the TiVo developers aren't as... well-defined as my lines to my friends in El Segundo.
     
  11. Dec 6, 2011 #11 of 258
    balboadave

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    I get that it doesn't support Whole Home, but does it support SWiM? What's required to hook both tuners and ethernet up to a SWiM network?
     
  12. Dec 6, 2011 #12 of 258
    Stuart Sweet

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    SWiM is supported and so is the use of a Cinema Connection kit for networking.
     
  13. Dec 6, 2011 #13 of 258
    balboadave

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    To be clear, this means I only need to hook up a single SWiM cable, and both tuners and ethernet are connected?
     
  14. Dec 6, 2011 #14 of 258
    mkdtv21

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    Do you think a future software release would enable youtube? I can't see why a service as simple as that can't be offered since its a internet connected device. I guess services like guru guides and web cast videos are surely out.
     
  15. Dec 6, 2011 #15 of 258
    Stuart Sweet

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    Yes. I'll confirm that personally in the next few days. You would need a DECA to split out the ethernet portion.

    There are no plans to launch youtube in the future, but plans can always change.
     
  16. Dec 6, 2011 #16 of 258
    cypherx

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    That's because everyone's kids grew up while the parents were waiting for this thing to come out!


    That is a long list of unsupported features. Between that and it's the old SD interface on an older DVR, I'll pass. DirecTV's in house HD GUI on HR24 (and upcoming HR34) is more my style.

    Thanks but no thanks.
     
  17. Dec 6, 2011 #17 of 258
    balboadave

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    Thanks!
     
  18. Dec 6, 2011 #18 of 258
    Alan Gordon

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    :lol:

    Joking aside... I feel that with the right advertising, TiVo could find a niche alongside the DirecTV DVRs with individuals who have small children. DirecTV's parental controls seem to be an afterthought (no offense to DirecTV, as I don't know any other provider other than TiVo who does better), and TiVo KidZone is DEFINITELY a feature that I'd consider worth more than $5 extra a month.

    There's a lot of GREAT TiVo features on this device, and a few great DirecTV features. The lack of WHDVR is a deal-breaker for me, but even then, the most disappointing aspect is that once again, it's a handicapped TiVo.

    ~Alan
     
  19. Dec 6, 2011 #19 of 258
    spartanstew

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    What if someone already swapped their old D*Tivo for an HRXX?

    Will older D*TiVo peanut remotes work with the THR22?
     
  20. Dec 6, 2011 #20 of 258
    Alan Gordon

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    No color buttons...

    ~Alan
     

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