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Time To Admit That D11 Has Been A Dramatic Disappointment?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by JayPSU, Nov 19, 2008.

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  1. JayPSU

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    Wasn't this his whole point?
     
  2. tcusta00

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    No.
     
  3. man_rob

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    Nowhere did I say this. Maybe you should get a grip on reality?


    Again, adding locals doesn't preclude adding nationals. That is a false argument. Are you actually arguing that if they added both locals a nationals, that would be somehow bad for business? They would lose money by building the national HD channel roster, while also adding locals? Are you actually saying that customers would turn their noses up at bolstering both local and national channel counts? Really?
     
  4. LameLefty

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    A much better way is to buy some stock and show up at a shareholder's meeting and letting your displeasure be heard. Or better yet, organizing some kind of mass boycott.

    But if all that's too much trouble, I guess there's always this thread. :)
     
  5. man_rob

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    The nerve of some people expressing opinions that differ from yours on a discussion forum.
     
  6. tcusta00

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    Again, as I've asked you in threads in the past: How do you know this? Your entire argument is based on an assumption that no one has proven to be correct.

    And again, assuming for a second that you're right... fine, DirecTV screwed something up. What would you like them to do? Give you a sticker? Come in here and admit it? Launch a new satellite tomorrow to make up for it? I'm confused as to what you're looking to gain from these frequent assertions you make about the mismanagement of DirecTV...
     
  7. Balestrom

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    I am sure there are folks on the board who like nothing better then to poke at others or DirecTV.

    The fact is, I was generalizing. If I over did it, and perhaps I did, that is my error.

    I just meant that there are some people that post that will go to the ends of the earth to defend DirecTV and there are some that will go to the ends of the earth to rip DirecTV. I've seen this in other posts as I lurk. Valid points are made on both sides. But perhaps in the end, a lot of this discussion is motivated by something more then just D11 on either side.
     
  8. man_rob

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    I don't expect DirecTV to do anything just because I am of the opinion that they lack in a certain area. It's a discussion forum. People come here to discuss things. Not everyone is going to agree. I am taking part in the discussion. Should I not express my opinion because it upsets you?
     
  9. tcusta00

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    Nope, carry on with your "discussion."
     
  10. man_rob

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    And you do the same. You see it's kind of the point of a "discussion" forum.
     
  11. Sixto

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    Exactly.

    The thought pattern was that there probably is a team at DirecTV responsible for the rollout of new channels (SD or HD). Their task may be to get the channel from a provider and get that channel to everyone's TV. This would be totally separate from contract negotiations.

    You need to get the feed, you need the internal network bandwidth to accept the feed, you need the MPEG2/MPEG4 equipment to get the content into the correct format, you need internal connectivity to the uplink center, you need all of the equipment at the uplink center (including maybe opening new uplink centers), and then you need to configure the satellites to accept the feed. And then once all of the infrastructure is in place, you need to thoroughly test it all.

    My assumption is that in normal practice a typical fortune-500 company will have an organization responsible for everything described above, and that department will have a budget which includes labor (people), capital, and other expenses. And that budget is reviewed at least monthly, especially in the current economy.

    Now, if this organization is responsible for all channel additions (SD, SD LIL, HD, HD LIL), then they probably have a roll-out plan which takes into account everything described above for all new channel additions.

    Any they probably are very busy right now, with multiple channels going "live" every week.
     
  12. Piratefan98

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    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Jeff
     
  13. pbg

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    It’s difficult to have a reasonable discussion about a subject where so little factual information is available to base passionate responses on. Are we going to let that stop us? Probably not…

    For example you can’t say for certain that because Dish or FIOS has WGN HD or ESPNU HD and D doesn’t, that they’ve dropped the ball.

    Who knows, knowing they were behind in content, maybe in an attempt to differentiate themselves from Direct, these guys bit the bullet, and entered into lame contracts with some of these channels? Possible?

    For better or worse, I still trust that Direct knows what its doing. I think with the sprawl of FIOS underway, the best strategy probably is getting established in as many DMA’s as possible, while increasing the national HD content, while trying to maintain reasonable terms with all channels.
     
  14. man_rob

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    So let's say in the most recent round of local additions, in what, 6 markets, with give or take 4 locals per market, approximately 24 channels added...Whoa, better not go for 25, the satellite might explode, or the workers might drop from the exhaustion of adding just one more channel. What about in the weeks when they didn't add any locals at all? DirecTV just couldn't take the stress?
     
  15. dcowboy7

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    yang was running yahoo & he got the boot....how much worse can we do.
     
  16. feschiver

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    So does anyboby Know a date for d12:confused:
     
  17. Stuart Sweet

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    All right.

    I tried cajoling.
    I tried asking nicely.
    I tried begging.
    I tried speaking to some of you privately.

    Threads get closed when they turn into personal attacks, or when they become rude, or when there is no way to get back to the topic.

    Last try — on topic, or closed. You decide.
     
  18. dcowboy7

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    the 2nd Half of 2009.
     
  19. tcusta00

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    Huh?
     
  20. Stuart Sweet

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    I am not sure where Mr. Yang's recent departure from Yahoo is on topic for this thread. Once more, this is your last chance...

     
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