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Time Warner Cable, CBS pull back from blackout

Discussion in 'Cable TV Discussion' started by SayWhat?, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. SayWhat?

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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2013/07/30/cbs-goes-dark/2598463/
     
  2. PCampbell

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    Most can get CBS with a simple antenna just like we did in the 70s and 80s and its free. If more people did that CBS may not want as much money.
     
  3. Richard

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    CBS should be trying to get as many eyes on it's programming as possible. They should be PAYING Time Warner, DirecTV, DISH, etc., to carry their stations. Not the other way around. CBS needs Time Warner, Time Warner does not need CBS.
     
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  4. gov

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    Just throwing this out, not sure it is the answer:

    Cable customers in the reception contour of a specific station can have the OTA station with no additional $$$ through their cable franchise to the station.

    Folks outside the contour would pony up for the service and the charge is split between the cable co and the TV station.

    I might entertain the idea that out of contour fee might be regulated by Congress, although I would not trust them very fair to do anything that would be considered by most folks to be 'fair'.
     
  5. Aug 2, 2013 #5 of 54
    dpeters11

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    Looks like the blackout is starting, along with Showtime, TMC, Flix and Smithsonian nationwide.
     
  6. Aug 2, 2013 #6 of 54
    SayWhat?

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    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-cbs-channels-time-warner-cable-20130802,0,7575076.story
     
  7. Aug 2, 2013 #7 of 54
    TheRatPatrol

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    And TWC wants providers to pay $5.00 a month for the new Dodgers channel. Talke about being hypocritical.
     
  8. Aug 3, 2013 #8 of 54
    mailiang

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    This is great news for TWC's competitors! Customers will be running to Dish, DTV and Fios telcos! No more Under The Dome, Ray Donavan or Dexter episodes? :bang Please! :biggrin:


    Ian
     
  9. Aug 3, 2013 #9 of 54
    RAD

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    DIRECTV is backing TWC in the dispute with CBS, from http://investor.directv.com/releaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=782602


     
  10. mailiang

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    As far as CBS not allowing TWC's internet customers to access their streaming programs, according to my wife, who is an attorney, CBS is now opening themselves up to a real legal problem.


    Ian ;)
     
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  12. nmetro

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    Maybe all the cable and satellite companies should file a suit with the federal government. Tow wit, broadcast televisions stations are licensed by the federal government and the frequencies the broadcast upon are owned by the federal government. This also means, these same said frequencies are owned by the taxpayers. Congress is at fault here by allowing the NAB to write various bills that allow broadcasters to charge for carrying signals, which are available freely over the air. The broadcasters even went as far to prohibit the carriage of national network feeds, so they can have exclusive control of the area they serve "in the public interest". The reason why it is next to impossible to get WCBS, WNBC, WABC and WNYW outside the New York area, for example. The NAB required DirecTV and DISH to uplink every broadcast station. It was this reason why DISH tried to merge with DirecTV 10 years or so ago, because of the capacity, and cost, required to achieve this. This also contributes to why some channels cannot be carried in HD, because broadcast channels are insisting on the bandwidth. In the end, we subscribers, are forced to pay fro channels which are making money on their advertising, but they want more. And most of the broadcast channels are owned by the same media companies which own most of the pay TVC content. This is corporate greed; plain and simple. This consolidation also explains why pay TV channels, despite their number, have less variety than 5 or even 10 years ago.

    What is bad about this is that subscribers must pay for the signals they can get for free over the air. People, like myself, have no choice. It is 40 miles to the broadcast source with mountains and mesas in the way to get a clear signal. an antenna is not an option, because the homeowner's association disallow them because basic cable is available for this purpose. That is another another issue.

    So, I applaud DirecTV joining Warner with this; and I hope other providers will do so, as well.
     
  13. inkahauts

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    As far as CBS not allowing TWC's internet customers to access their streaming programs, according to my wife, who is an attorney, CBS is now opening themselves up to a real legal problem.


    Ian ;)


    I can't see anyway that's possible since you don't pay for any streaming services from any CBS stations. Its all considered free add ons and they are always subject to changes and limitations.
     
  14. SayWhat?

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    ^^ It goes into the Net Neutrality bit where someone is being punished based on the ISP and website. CBS might be within their rights to block all streaming during a carrier dispute, but not just a certain ISP, even if indirectly related to the dispute.
     
  15. mailiang

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    DTV customers pay for CBS programming. If such customers or anyone else are using an ISP who's broadcast carrier is in dispute with CBS, CBS can not exclude them from accessing their IT programing content.

    On another note, a CBS news crew was robbed Friday. Could it be that TWC customers are looking for payback already? :biggrin:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/04/kgo-tv-news-crew-robbed_n_3704053.html


    Ian
     
  16. SayWhat?

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    There's an article out there this morning saying that CBS stands to lose $400,000 per day during this weenie-measuring fest. That number seems low to me even if it is only from TWC.
     
  17. RAD

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    Over a DSLReports they's a news story that says besides pricing issues TWC doesn't want CBS to sell content to NetFlix.
     
  18. joshjr

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    Since when does a company like Dish have say over a broadcast station offering content to Netflix. Maybe CBS was actually right on this one. I dont agree with a huge increase but I also don't like the idea of Dish stating you can't offer your content on Netflix. If Dish wants part of that business too then maybe they should do a better job offering better internet people want to get paid on both ends.
     
  19. Diana C

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    This was reported today in the NY Times as well. According to the Times article, CBS and TWC have effectively agreed on a retransmission fee. The sticking point is that TWC wants access to the full CBS catalog for TWC's on-demand service. CBS currently charges per episode fees through Amazon and Vudu for access to this content and so they are asking for a VERY large payment to make this available to TWC. If you look at what is available on DirecTV's CBS on-demand service you'll see that it is only a few series and then only 2 or 3 episodes (usually just the 2 and 3 week old episodes). This is very different from the way NBC, for example, handles their on-demand content.

    The reality is that there is very little difference these days between the so-called "broadcast" (aka "over the air") networks and cable channels. The number of people that get their network content via an OTA antenna is a small fraction of the total number of households that receive it via cable. It is getting to the point that OTA transmission is becoming more of a burden than a benefit to channels in some markets.
     
  20. TheRatPatrol

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    Didn't D* and CBS just come to terms on a new deal this past year? Anyone know how long that deal is for?
     

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