Personal attacks? I'd say people who voice their displeasure with Directv/HR20 have seen that side of the coin just as well, if not moreso. As for posting about issues, I'd love to know the number of posts on DBSTalk about problems that have yet to be solved/resolved. Doesn't anyone on DBSTalk get tired of doing/posting the same things over, and over, and over here? Apparently not. Oh, your two links to threads I started. The first one, I did not start (check it), and the other was nothing more than a headline and a link to a news story. In fact, I tried to "fix" the headline (to make it more accurate) using the Advanced Editing function, but it never worked. So if you have other evidence that my threads (sorry, but I haven't really started many to be honest) are direct attacks on poor defenseless Directv or the moderators, please list them accurately. Neither of the two you posted are on point based on your statement.