Others have said Echo could sell new DVRs with the modified software and not violate the injunction. I get the feeling if Echo sold brand new DVRs with the same model numbers and the new software, you'd view that as a violation of the injunction, am I right? If Echo sold the DP-501 DVR with the new software, you'd find Echo in contempt, right? __________________ My personal opinions are just that. Don't rely on them - I could be Charlie Ergen's pool boy.