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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Gary Toma, Dec 26, 2012.
thank you for the page
Found additional techie stuff and photos for this new DLA LNBF on an unofficial blog site for DIRECTV Uruguay;
You can try Google translate or some other to convert to English, but the grammatical errors in the translation process makes for difficult reading many times. At least for Google Translate which I used.
I do wonder though since this new LNB will use IF down block signals from 450-700MHz when Intelsat 30/31 are operational if a type of Latin American "Low Band Converter" for that band which accomplishes what the BBC does for DIRECTV USA or a LA version of the H/HR23 receiver if not another altogether new model with wideband tuners chips like the H/HR23 is going to be necessary?
As, at least in the U.S., DIRECTV receiver tuners capable of operating in (non-SWiM) legacy mode can't receive frequencies much below 900 MHz excepting the H/HR23.
Doctor J Comments for the 6/12/13 Data:
NETWORK NAME CHANNEL LIL NOTES_0 NOTES_1
HD LIL Channel New Active
14 KTFF 61 72 A3 Fresno 61 KTFF UMas UniMas from KTFFDT-TV, 61, Fresno, CA
14 WRBJ HD 34 94 A3 Jackson 34 WRBJ IND Independent from WRBJDT-TV, 34, Jackson, MS
3 WRBJ SD 34 94 Jackson (MS) WRBJ 34 IND Independent from WRBJ-TV, 34, Jackson, MS
We have had some confusion regarding which LatinAm markets receive which Beams.
I put an updated, more explicit, Latin Network Decoder together to clarify some of these questions. This post is a bit delayed because I sent the new Decoder off to Latin area folks for validation before posting it here. This updated version will be included in forthcoming LatinAm TPN Maps.
Your comment "...I actually thought all channels on Beam Oeste were available to everyone in LA and the Caribbean " appears to be fully accurate.
I specifically asked confirmation that:
1. Only the El Caribe islands area and PR itself can receive the Beam PR channels. These two areas get Beam PR and Beam Oeste, but do not receive Beam Sur.
2. All the other areas shown (except El Caribe and PR) do receive both Beam Sur and Beam Oeste, but not Beam PR.
3. All the other areas shown (except El Caribe and PR) do receive all indicated transponders of Beam Sur and Beam Oeste.
Hope this helps!
EDIT: 6/22/13: The Network Decoder attachment has been deleted. Please see the most current Latin TPN Map Excel for the most up to date version of the Decoder.
Thanks for the more comprehensive DLA map Gary, and for the info. from your contact(s) down there.
One point and a question though;
First I think what egakagoc2xi is saying is that while all "transponders" assigned to Beam Oeste may be available to all countries in LA, Puerto Rico, and EL Caribe, not all channels carried by those transponders (which are ~12-14 SD ones/per) are available to all the countries. Some are exclusive to individual countries. Therefore if the "channels" (not "transponders") on Beam Oeste along with the transfer of tp. 25 which were exclusive to PR and the EL Caribe are eventually removed having now been migrated to satellites on DIRECTV USA, that will create additional (likely SD) bandwidth for more channels on Beam Oeste for the other countries in LA.
Also, did or can your LA contact(s) confirm egakagoc2xi's claim that the HD portion of Beam PR (Tps. 2, 5, and 11) have indeed been turned off?
You are correct - the specific channels available vary by country and also vary dependent upon the programming package the viewer has subscribed to. The ability to receive a transponder does not imply that all or any channels on that transponder will be viewable.
In the case of the Beam PR HD channels: The Latin TPN Map of 4/3/13, had 14 HD Channels as a part of Beam PR. They broke down as:
5 HD Channels on TPN 2
5 HD Channels on TPN 5
4 HD Channels on TPN 11
Our next Latin TPN Map, 6/5/13, did not include any of those 14 HD Channels. Presently, TPNs 2, 5 and 11 all show as unused. Although 6 of those departed HD Channels appear in Beam Sur as different channel numbers, 8 of those HD Channels do not appear on G3C at all. Beam Sur is not available in PR, and of course Beam Oeste has no HD channels at all.
All those departed HD Channels and many more are available in Puerto Rico as a part of the new US Domestic Package Service offering which began operation on 12/17/12.
Said another way: if you are watching HD in PR today:
you are doing so with your new LHR-24 Receiver and your SL-5 dish;
you are receiving HD Channels from SW1 @103W and SW2 @99W
you are receiving all your SONIC channels as MPEG4 from SW1 and SW2
you are receiving SD Channels from SW1 @103W, SW2 @99W and D5 @110W
you are receiving all your Channels as if you are Domestic Local-Into-Local Market #213
I will appreciate any input and correction from folks in the Puerto Rico Market....
I'm suppose to be the LA contact
I haven't been able to check this week, but what Gary tells you is pretty accurate.
On these abbreviations for the South American regional uplink centers or satellite teleports mentioned in the ku band frequency plan for Intelsat 30 (and possibly 31), I assume stand for;
VBC - Venezuelan Broadcast Center?
CoBC - Colombian Broadcast Center?
ABC - Argentine Broadcast Center?
BBC - ????
(Not including the "CBC," of course which I know is for DIRECTV's "California Broadcast Center" here in Long Beach, CA. in the SW CONUS)
Have any knowledge on this, in particular what uplink center the "BBC" is?
It should be Brasil, some channels are uploaded from there
Here is page from a DTVLA Presentation a couple of years ago. As best I am aware, the Broadcast Uplink Centers as shown have not changed.
I am not sure what "CoBc" means, if it is not the Long Beach facility???
OK, thanks a much;
Assuredly not much else is accurate in that document, but the broadcast centers should be. I thought "BBC" was for Brazil but couldn't be sure as the satellite receive beam boresight axis for the BBC appears to be in southern Brazil close to Uruguay, so thought it might refer to a city in the latter until I my brain-lock cleared and realized the broadcast centers are named by countries and not cities.
I also feel that "CoBC" is for a (perhaps new?) regional uplink center in Columbia making for two centers each uplinking to as many as 24 36 MHz wide transponders primarily for HD programming to cover north (VBC and CoBC in regions 1 and 2) and south (ABC and BBC in regions 3 and 4) portions of SA.
I have that believe also, I can't remember where I read that directv was planing building a new uplink station in Colombia, but I'm not sure, I will look into it.
Doctor J Comments for the 6/19/13 Data:
[SIZE=10pt]HD LIL Channel New[/SIZE]
[SIZE=8pt]NETWORK NAME CHANNEL LIL_MKT NOTES_0 NOTES_1[/SIZE]
[SIZE=8pt] 11 WRGX 23 57 A3 Dothan 23 WRGX NBC NBC from WRGXDT-TV, 23, Dothan, AL[/SIZE]
Can you also give me (or "us") some idea what its usually like past the dish?
I mean I assume a typical setup down there is a 24 inch round dish feeding two lines from the DLA duel LNB, but then to what?
Is it usually to a multiline voltage/tone type multiswitch or a SWiM type multiswitch which then feeds the individual receivers?
[strike]Also, can or does your version of the WHDVR service, "NEXUS," travel over the satellite coax as a MoCA signal? And if so since the new LNB down-block will now cover 450-700 MHz and 900-1650 MHz what frequency range does the MoCA signal use, as it can't be the 475-625 MHz one used here?[/strike]
All you assumptions are correct. It uses MoCa and SWiM. I will get back to you on the frequency range of the MoCA.
BTW: Today I checked...and nothing new...Gary has the info.
The new 6/19/13 Latin TPN Map has just been posted.
No new Broadcast Centers are forthcoming, based on the 10-K Document filed by Directv 2/21/13;
"The major locations of the DIRECTV Latin America segment include 11 administrative offices, four broadcast centers and eight call centers. We consider our properties adequate for our present needs."
I'm guessing this might have been asked before and might be off topic for this thread, but I am looking for information concerning receiving Directv Puerto Rico via the US satellites (110 and 103) in other Caribbean islands.
I live in St. Lucia (14N 61W) and yesterday tried getting a signal from 103 using a 6' dish with the SL3 LNB McGyvered into place but found nothing. We had the 21 volt power inserter and with a Super Buddy either through the power inserter or via a 6 x 8 switch got nothing.
At this point I really don't know if there is a problem with my connections, fitment of the LNB to the Channel Master LNB bracket or (I hope not) a lack of signal.... I'm also unsure as to the transponder frequency if correct via the Super Buddy defaults. I have the latest files on the unit.
I'm hoping that Raphael might chime in on this as he always has his thumb on the pulse of receiving the various services around the Caribbean.
Feel free to move this post if necessary.
I look forward to hearing anything on this subject.
I'm afraid your "(I hope not) a lack of signal..." is precisely the problem I'm sorry to say. St. Lucia is in the Southern Caribbean which as the location implies is too far south for Puerto Rico's signals.
PR currently receives spotbeams from DIRECTV's Spaceway 1 and 2 satellites at 103 and 99 W and from a CONUS beam lobe extension from D5 at 110 which covers the island all well north of your location even for a 6 ft. dish/SL3 contrivance.
Strange the FCC doc has a "CoBC" pairing with the Venezuela Broadcast Center ("VBC") to supply the 24 prospective HD transponders down-linking to regions 1 and 2 covering the northern portion of SA.
Although I see no reason why the California Broadcast Center ("CBC") here in So Cal.can't pair with the VBC to supply HD programming to those transponders as it does with the 16 transponders for SD programming of the Pan Regional 1 set.