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Two new features coming to HotPass

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Satelliteracer, Mar 2, 2007.

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  1. Mar 6, 2007 #61 of 166
    edmartin

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    D* produces SOME of the content for HP. They also included the packaged content from the main broadcaster (Fox at this point in the season). And has been discussed previously, to pull off what they are doing, the give-back to the broadcaster was to show their commercials.
     
  2. Mar 6, 2007 #62 of 166
    wmschultz

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    I know that, just stop comparing it to all the other sports packages.
     
  3. Mar 6, 2007 #63 of 166
    Satelliteracer

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    Yes, DIRECTV is producing NASCAR HotPass but the contract stipulates we have to carry the commercials. I don't know how to make it any clearer. :)

    No commercials = no dedicated 5 driver channels each week.
     
  4. Mar 6, 2007 #64 of 166
    Satelliteracer

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    Actually $2.14 per race with some commercials (yet we never take you away from the action...so it's not commercial free but it's never totally away from the race either.)

    :)
     
  5. Mar 6, 2007 #65 of 166
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    But the RedZone channel was just "cherrypicking" segments from all available broadcasts at the time. While D* is producing the exclusive Hot Pass content, who is providing the main race feed? Hint: It's NOT D*. Now, I'm not privy to the details of the agreement that allows D* to carry the race feed from FOX/ESPN/TNT, I would imagine they have to take the feed straight from the producer.
     
  6. Mar 6, 2007 #66 of 166
    B.A.T.S

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    Seems someone signed a BAD contract - Commericals = END of Hotpass!!
     
  7. Mar 6, 2007 #67 of 166
    wmschultz

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    You are missing my point.

    The picture you get on your sreen from Hot Pass is being produced, thrown together, whatever by DirecTV. The Fox/TNT/ESPN feed is being produced by those producers, but the other two pictures from that screen are not.

    So, yes, I expect commercials in the feed that DirecTV is using for the national feed. I just didn't expect the audio from that to be dominant in the DirecTV produced feed. Does that make sense?

    I mean, I don't mind that that National broadcast goes to commercial, that is why I was paying for HotPass, so I could continue getting something during the commercial break on the National broadcast. I just didn't the national broadcast
    to dominate my screen during a commercial and then take over the audio.
     
  8. Mar 6, 2007 #68 of 166
    Satelliteracer

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    Obviously we heard your input and have quickly modified this so you CAN hear EVERYTHING they are saying starting with race 3 of 37 races with the 3rd audio option. The intent was for this to happen anyway with the dedicated announcers so I'm not sure how anyone would say it was false advertising. The execution of the announcers and team audio sometimes overlapped. We realized that, we have made those modifications. We're trying guys, we really are.

    Also, "drivers subject to change" is listed on all advertising because we certainly wouldn't put the same drivers on each week.

    Next year, everything is in HD, but yet...commercials will continue.
     
  9. Mar 6, 2007 #69 of 166
    wmschultz

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    All I know is that it won't matter once ESPN takes over the Nextel Cup races, cuz I will use my DVR to get into sync with the Sirius provided MRN/PRN broadcast so I don't have to listen to Crusty Wallace.

    Rusty is slowing becoming the John Madden of NASCAR broadcast.....

    "Now there is a guy who goes faster when he presses the gas pedal"........
     
  10. Mar 6, 2007 #70 of 166
    Satelliteracer

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    Anyone that has been in business knows a contract is a two way street I'm sure you will concur. It's a give and take process and a compromise for all parties. No one gets everything they want. There are certain deal breakers or "must haves" in any deal of any kind.

    Commercials are a requirement. Has nothing to do with a good contract, bad contract or anything else...without the commercials, this package doesn't happen.
     
  11. Mar 6, 2007 #71 of 166
    wmschultz

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    Watch what you are saying because unless you let us hear the audio of the incar radio during commercials, we are
    missing things. Especially during cautions when the communications can be most informative and commical.
     
  12. Mar 6, 2007 #72 of 166
    B.A.T.S

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    Thanks for the crumbs on this one. Could you please make the screen size a little smaller so I won't be able to see it at all. You are promoting the commericals more than your product by reducing the screen size during commericals.
     
  13. Mar 6, 2007 #73 of 166
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    My two cents on these


    1) A pay per race option exists today. $29.99 for one race

    2) That would require 43 channels each week of bandwidth capacity that would really be almost impossible (at least today)....I don't see that as physcially possible. Plus the costs of making all 43 available and having say 50,000 people sign up for Gordon and say 5 people for the 43rd driver....the costs would be enormous and would have to be passed down to the consumer to cover it. Just my two cents. It's a great idea and one that I think everyone at DIRECTV would love to do but I don't see a solution for the capacity it would require, let alone the production costs. Remember, just for doing 5 channels per week they had to add something like 80 employees, 10 announcers, 5 producers (1 per channel), all those camera operators, etc. So now you would have to take that up exponentially.

    3) That would be very cool.....you never know....we do that with YES Network's baseball coverage where fans can select another camera on their own. Down the line....

    4) Correct...coming this week on interactive receivers (yellow button) and for non-interactive receivers it would be your SAP functionality.


    Hope that helps
     
  14. Mar 6, 2007 #74 of 166
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    There were three articles in the NY Times, WSJ and another paper over the weekend that talked about In_Demand's InCar series. It stated they had only 30,000 customers at their peak after 4 years. DIRECTV has more than tripled that in 2 races (despite having 16 million customers to sell to vs 75 million that cable had) and it continues to grow daily. The package was not "taken away" from InDemand in the sense you describe. DIRECTV has taken that old package and made it better. It's interactive now, it has 25 cameras vs 5. Next year it will be in HD. More innovations will continue.

    As I mentioned to you previously...it is my understanding that InDemand wasn't required to show commercials because their number of subscribers was limited. Due to the number of subscribers that HotPass has, the contract calls for the commercials to be shown for obvious reasons (it protects the broadcasters and their rights).

    For those of you with Sunday Ticket going back 10 years or longer, that service has changed as well. We used to be able to show all the games. Then, we had to blackout a limited number of games that were in local markets (the local CBS or FOX station wanted customers to watch their local broadcasts). Point being that as these special sports packages have developed, broadcasters have changed how they view them.

    On the Canada side, I think that is comparing apples to ball bearings. NASCAR International handles those types of products. Different agreements, different requirements, different thresholds.

    Broadcasters are savvy. They need to protect their investments and they do.
     
  15. Mar 6, 2007 #75 of 166
    Herdfan

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    None of the comparisons between sport packages are exactly apples to apples, but the subscription service most like Hotpass was inDemand which was commercial free.

    So it is not that big of stretch to assume Hotpass would be commercial free as the predecessor to it was.

    I don't know if I made the assumption about it being commercial free or not. I did make the assumption that whoever dreamed up this package would be race fan savy enough to understand that true race fans want to hear the conversations that happen under caution between driver and crew chief.

    Now how to bridge the abyss between the required commercials and providing those crucial communications, I don't know.
     
  16. Mar 6, 2007 #76 of 166
    Satelliteracer

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    You can hear everything on audio except during the commercials...you are correct....you will still listen to commercial audio when NASCAR HotPass must cut to commercials.


    Now you know why the disclaimers for drug commercials are 30 minutes long. :D


    Just kidding guys. Trying to be lighthearted here. We're in race 3 and each week we've added a few things each race.

    Incidentally, your comments on the cautions and team communications is heard loud and clear. All of us that call ourselves racing fans agree complete, including the talented folks producing HotPass. Stay tuned....
     
  17. Mar 6, 2007 #77 of 166
    Satelliteracer

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    The abyss is being considered I can assure you....don't know if there is a viable solution, but there are many ideas on the table....stay tuned.

    I see you are a Marshall fan....Battle for the Bell.
     
  18. Mar 6, 2007 #78 of 166
    AdamL2388

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    I am quite surpsrised that ROGERS has commercials on there HotPass, only because Rogers / Cogeco have the same super sports pack, and Cogeco gets there feeds from all games from Rogers, yet Cogeco offers the whole race without any commercials, and stays with the drivers whenever Direc TV goes to break. I now this because I have watched both races so far on HotPass.

    On another note, I didn't know you could subscribe to HotPass alone without the ssp on Rogers? For only 26.99 a month for 7 leagues I am quite pleased with Cogeco and am not giving up this package anytime in the near future.
     
  19. Mar 6, 2007 #79 of 166
    Herdfan

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    Cable didn't have 75 million to sell. That is a bad statistic. You had to be a digital subscriber to have access to the service.

    According to the numbers provided by National Cable & Telecommunications Association, there are on 65.6M cable subs and only 31.4M of them have digital cable as of December 2006.

    So yes, D* has still sold more subscriptions. But D* also has the advantage of being the only provider. InDemand had to try and sell its service over multiple MSO's each with their own agendas.
     
  20. Mar 6, 2007 #80 of 166
    Herdfan

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    Did you go to OU?
     
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