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UPDATE 1-Fox takes aim at ESPN with national sports TV channel

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by onan38, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. Aug 8, 2013 #101 of 346
    KyL416

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    On that note, today they released an updated schedule for the post FS1 Speed, the NASCAR qualifying and practices, the CWTS, along with many other racing events are now part of the schedule.
     
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    James Long

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    Looking forward on the schedules on Titan TV it appears that Titan is filling Speed's grid with Fox Sports 1 programming. Some of the content is first run on "Speed" with replays on "Fuel" after the 17th.

    Zap2It's guide seems to be more in touch with reality with Speed becoming a six hour loop each day starting on the 17th. I suppose the hope that grandfathered Speed might have anything new is faded.
     
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    tonyd79

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    Gus Johnson's loud calls won't work on golf


    Gus doesn't work on any sport but they keep trotting him out there.
     
  4. Aug 8, 2013 #104 of 346
    KyL416

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    They just released the schedule update today, it will be a day or two before it starts appearing on the sites for the listings providers and then reach the set top boxes.
     
  5. Aug 8, 2013 #105 of 346
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    The sanctioning body of NASCAR (as well as dozens of corporate and team sponsors) will be furious if there is no deal in place in time for the August 17th launch.

    Fans will be screaming as well.

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  6. Aug 8, 2013 #106 of 346
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    not sure if this was posted anywhere else:


    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-fi-ct-ala-carte-tv-20130809,0,7036445.story

    what an idiot, if you have no home then you can't exactly watch TV.

    if i have to pay more for my TV bill then my monthly car payment then i will probably drop it or play the game of switching every few years
     
  7. Aug 9, 2013 #107 of 346
    Bambler

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    People seem really passionate about the ala carte model as being a savior to us the consumer and, to a lesser extent, broadcasters like DirecTV.

    I kind of thought about this a bit more and you know what's going to happen if this model ever truly takes hold: popular channels will skyrocket in price to compensate for the lower overall revenue. These media companies won't tolerate poor profits and risk being hung by their shareholders. They will jack the price of their marquee channels to astronomical prices to bouy their less than stellar channels that get subsidized now in the package deals.

    What's going to happen to us is that we will probably be paying the same, but get less depending on how many channels you want. Heck, in fact we may ultimately be paying more if you want that variety. I can see ESPN doubling or tripling in price in an ala carte model, while their lesser stations tumble in price. That price will be set in a manner that minimizes revenue loss.

    Be careful what you wish for, I guess.
     
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  8. Aug 9, 2013 #108 of 346
    Mariah2014

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    I don't expect the model to change anytime soon. It is a ploy to try and keep the costs down. Seconly atleast 2 cable providers have now confirmed they are going to carry Fox Sports 1. Charter has picked it up now in addition to Comcast. Charter is still one that hasn't picked up others like CSN Northwest or Pac 12 network like Directv. I agree that Directv will carry the channel, but the question is will it be this month or sometime between now and winter. Probably be another case like Nat Geo wild where it is little while, but not a very long tme after launch when the channel gets added.
     
  9. Aug 9, 2013 #109 of 346
    Laxguy

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    While the scenario above is likely, the good old marketplace has a way of mitigating runaway prices over the medium and long term. Those media companies who jack up prices a bunch better have very compelling offerings. And watch out for their competition who comes in with better shows at a lower price....

    I don't know how related this is, but I have been buoyed by some recent very good productions that are semi-independent. First there was AMC with a raft (goes along with buoyed, heh-heh) of great series, then Netflix with House of Cards, then FX's The Bridge. These are all shows I'd pay a premium to watch, ala carte or any other way.
     
  10. Aug 9, 2013 #110 of 346
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    I think if the a la carte model would take hold it would go like this. Rights costs for events would come way down, per channel fees would go up but not as much as everyone thinks. Right now companies bid for events with outrageous amounts of money, making that money back and then some with rate hikes that basically everyone has to pay because we don't have a la carte. The ratings would bear out my rough generalization that 100% of people are paying for sports that 10% of people watch. OTA networks like FOX are getting into this game now too with rate hikes for retransmission consent.

    For example, if ESPN had to stand on its own, people might spend $20/month for it at most. This would limit how much they could bid for events. If everyone else (Fox Sports 1, NBCSN, etc.) had to limit themselves in a similar manner, costs would go way down as every channel would not want their price to get that much higher than their competitors and they would still want to turn a profit. This would force sports channels to operate in a responsible manner rather than the ridiculous way they operate now.
     
  11. Aug 9, 2013 #111 of 346
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    Looks like the first AFL game on FS2 will be on August 18!

    I just signed up for FS+ this week for AFL. I wonder if D* will allow me to cancel FS+ before the 30 day period without a penalty? Yeah I know, not a chance. :)
     
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    Does anyone know what channel the UEFA Champions League qualifying round games will be on August 20 and 28th? Will it be FS1?
     
  13. Aug 9, 2013 #113 of 346
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    Fox Sports 1 is going to have some. Not sure beyond that. Possibly Fox soccer 2go as well.
     
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    The following is the games that are airing live:

    August 20
    2:30pm ET
    Fox Sports 1 1st Leg Game A
    Fox Sports 2 1st Leg Game C
    Fox Soccer and Fox Soccer Plus 1st Leg Game B

    August 21
    2:30pm ET
    Fox Sports 1 1st Leg Game F
    Fox Soccer and Fox Soccer Plus 1st Leg Game G

    August 27
    2:30pm ET
    Fox Sports 1 2nd Leg Game A
    Fox Sports 2 2nd Leg Game C
    Fox Soccer and Fox Soccer Plus 2nd Leg Game B

    August 28
    2:30pm ET
    Fox Sports 1 2nd Leg Game F
    Fox Sports 2 2nd Leg Game H
    Fox Soccer and Fox Soccer Plus 2nd Leg Game G


    FSN, Root and MSG+ will also have games in these timeslots
     
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    Cable providers still negotiating with Fox over Fox Sports 1:

    NASCAR Sprint Cup Series practice sessions and the Camping World Truck Series race Aug. 17 from Michigan International Speedway will be among the live telecasts on the first day Fox Sports 1 goes on air in place of the Speed cable network. And that could be a problem. Among those still negotiating carriage fees with Fox Sports 1 are DirecTV, Dish and Time Warner Cable. Spokesmen for DirecTV and TWC said Thursday that discussions are ongoing and Dish also has not signed a deal, according to the SportsBusiness Daily. Speed is in nearly 86 million homes, but millions of its current subscribers won't be able to see Fox Sports 1 unless a carriage deal is finalized. According to the SportsBusiness Journal, Speed costs about 23 cents each month per subscriber, and Fox is looking to increase that to 80 cents per month. It's not surprising that these negotiations go down to the wire, but it's enough to make NASCAR fans nervous as the channel they know as Speed will cease to exist when Fox Sports 1 is launched in its place in about a week.(Sporting News)(8-9-2013)

    As I stated in another thread, how can we get our message through to the differnt channels about them forcing us to pay exorbintant increases just because they pay way too much for what they provide to DTV et-al? A 57 cent per month increase isn't gonna bankrupt any of us, but it's the principle of it. If DTV doesn't give in and the channel goes black for any amount of time with NASCAR programming, I won't hold DTV responsible, I'll lay all of the blame on Fox for being greedy and/or stupid for paying alot of money for the different TV sports rights...most of which I won't even be watching.

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  16. Bambler

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    Personally I hope DirecTV caves. Then we can all see how hypocritical some of their past statements have been.
     
  17. Laxguy

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    Reaching an agreement doesn't means someone "caves". Sometimes, yes.

    Just what "hypocritical" statements do you mean? You're not confusing market-speak with management statements, are you?
     
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    Are you trolling or do you care to explain your comments?
     
  19. tjguitar

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    Eh, I NEVER watched Speed, but I will be watching FS1 somewhat often, so I don't see the issue with them asking for an increase. FS1 will have way more content that people actually want to watch.
     
  20. James Long

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    If FS 1 is carried we will never know if it is for 23c or 80c ... so I suppose you're rooting for the channel NOT to be carried and for your fellow subscribers to lose access to all of the content on Speed that is continuing only on FS 1 and all the content that is moving to FS 1?

    A better deal would be to see FS 1 carried at a fair price. That way the content is not lost.
     

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