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UPDATE L180 REQUEST: Please reply if you have no DVR functions on OTA station(s)

Discussion in 'Other HD Receiver Support Forum (811, 921, 942)' started by Mark Lamutt, Feb 22, 2004.

  1. Mark Lamutt

    Mark Lamutt Your Neighborhood Liasion

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    This request is from me, but I think that Dish may find it very useful.

    If you have an OTA digital station in your area that you cannot record from, or cannot use DVR commands from, please post the following information in this thread:

    • the station call letters
    • ATSC channel of the station
    • Re-mapped channel of the station
    • if the station is broadcasting subchannels (ie 7.1 and 7.2)
    • station contact information (phone number and email address to the engineering department if possible)
    • can't record, no DVR functions, or both

    You will be able to get station contact information from the station's website.

    Please post ONLY this information in this thread, no discussion about this. There are plenty of other threads about this issue for the discussion.
     
  2. guruka

    guruka Troublemaker/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

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    the station call letters - KNME (PBS Albuquerque, NM)
    ATSC channel of the station - 35
    Re-mapped channel of the station - 005
    if the station is broadcasting subchannels - YES 5-1 (HD) and 5-2 (SD)
    station contact information -Director of Engineering, Jim Gale, (505) 277-3296, jgale@knme.org
    can't record, no DVR functions, or both -BOTH, no record, no DVR

    .....G
     
  3. me@jakepratt.com

    me@jakepratt.com Cool Member

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    the station call letters - KTUL(ABC Tulsa, OK)
    ATSC channel of the station - 10
    Re-mapped channel of the station - 8
    if the station is broadcasting subchannels - YES 8.1 (HD) and 8.2 (SD)
    station contact information (918) 445-8888
    can't record, no DVR functions, or both - BOTH, no record, no DVR

    the station call letters - KOTV(CBS Tulsa, OK)
    ATSC channel of the station - 55
    Re-mapped channel of the station - 6
    if the station is broadcasting subchannels - Sometimes 6.1 (HD) and 6.2 (SD)
    station contact information (918) 732-6000
    can't record, no DVR functions, or both - BOTH, no record, no DVR
     
  4. Allen Noland

    Allen Noland New Member

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    I live in the Tulsa area and am having the same problem as Me@jakepratt.com.

    Roger Herring is the contact at KTUL. rherring@ktul.com. When I first received my 921 one of the first things I was able to record was Threat Matrix ( this was the only thing it recorded correctly durring the tunner problem days)

    Update: The live dvr functions work on 8-2, but not 8-1.

    Gerald Weaver is the contact at KOTV. gweaver@kotv.com . Also, I don't believe KOTV is sending the 6-2 sub channel anymore. They did for a long time. Removing the subchannel didn't change the ability to record. It hasn't worked since I received my 921.

    hope this helps
     
  5. Mark Lamutt

    Mark Lamutt Your Neighborhood Liasion

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    Thanks guys. Please keep the information coming - any pattern that can be discerned from this could go to solving the problem.
     
  6. Allen Noland

    Allen Noland New Member

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    I sent an e-mail to KTUL asking about any changes to there stream. They replied today saying they had upgraded there PSIP generation software but didn't make any changes to the settings. I have requested details about what they use for PSIP in hopes of sending it to Dish.
     
  7. paulcdavis

    paulcdavis Legend/Supporter DBSTalk Gold Club

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    the station call Letters: KVIE(PBS, Sacramento , CA)
    ATSC channel of the station - 53
    Re-mapped channel of the station - 006
    Sub-channels 6.1 (HD), 6.2 (SD), 6.3 (blank screen), 6.4 (blank screen)
    Station Contact: Michael Wall, Vice President of Technology 916-929-5843
    Both : can't record and no DVR functions
     
  8. CAL7

    CAL7 Legend

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    Dec 16, 2003
    WESH Orlando
    ATSC Ch. 11
    Remapped Ch. 2
    No subchannels, just 002-01
    Signal strength: 113-120
    Can't record; no DVR

    (note that it's the only OTA that doesn't work with DVR and is also the only VHF ATSC channel - coincidence?)
     
  9. gdawg5000

    gdawg5000 New Member

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    KEYE Austin, Texas
    ATSC Channel 42
    Remapped Ch. 42-01
    No Subchannels (they used to have radar but no longer)
    No DVR; The record function acts like it is working but it doesn't.
    I can record off of 4 other OTA HD stations.
     
  10. John Quaglino

    John Quaglino AllStar

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    WWLDT(CBS New Orleans)
    36.1 OTA
    4.1 remap
    No subchannels
    No record or DVR functions
    rbarber@wwltv.com
     
  11. Gary Swanson

    Gary Swanson Cool Member

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    Station call letters KWTV (CBS, Oklahoma City,OK
    ATSC channel of the station - 39
    Re-mapped channel of the station - 9
    Subchannels - 9-01
    Station contact Greg Ward 405-843-6640 Ward@kwtv.com
    No DVR functions, can not record

    Station call letters KFOR (NBC, Oklahoma City,OK
    ATSC channel of the station - 27
    Re-mapped channel of the station - 4
    Subchannels - 4-01, 4-02
    Station contact Bob Ablah 405-424-4444 Bobablah@kfor.com
    No DVR functions, can not record. Before 15th of Feb. I could record this channel. Lost the channel completely until the 20th now I can not record this channel. Station said psip was not working before the 20th. Now it is working.


    Station call letters KOKH (Fox, Oklahoma City,OK
    ATSC channel of the station - 24
    Re-mapped channel of the station - 25
    Subchannels - 25-01, 24-01
    Station contact 405-843-2525
    No DVR functions, can not record on (24-01)
    Yes DVR functions, can record on (25-01)
     
  12. pdlittle

    pdlittle AllStar

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    KGAN in Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    ATSC Channel 51
    Re-mapped to channel 002.1 (HD) and 002.2 (SD)

    [size=-1]Street Address-
    [/size]
    [size=-1]KGAN-TV
    600 Old Marion Rd. NE
    Cedar Rapids, IA 52402

    [/size]
    [size=-1]Mailing Address-
    [/size]
    [size=-1]KGAN-TV
    PO Box 3131
    Cedar Rapids, IA 52406[/size]


    [size=-1]Business Hours-
    [/size]
    [size=-1]8:00 am - 5:00 pm (Monday - Friday)[/size]

    [size=-1]Email-
    kgan@kgan.com[/size]


    [size=-1]Phone Numbers[/size]
    [size=-1]319-395-9060 or 800-642-6140[/size]

    No DVR functions and can't record on the HD channel 002.1. Everything seems normal and works on the SD channel 002.2.
     
  13. Mark Lamutt

    Mark Lamutt Your Neighborhood Liasion

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    Please try to provide contact information as well everyone - that'll help a lot!
     
  14. DonLandis

    DonLandis Hall Of Fame

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    I have one station that is immune to all DVR operations.

    It will not allow any live pause or rewind functions.

    Additionally, it will not permit any record functions on manual record or manual timer record. What happens is it appears like you are recording as it yields no errors. But, when you access the finished recording in the DVR recorded programs, it is listed as 0 time recorded. All you can do is delete the event.

    The non-DVR function is 24-7 and is not related to specific programming.

    The station is WJWB Warner Bros. Affil. Channel DT 34-1 and 34-2 It's marketing channels are made at 17-1 and 17-2.

    The Station Engineer is George Birnbaum, Operations Manager
    gbirnbaum@wjwb.com (904) 646-5013

    Mark Mashman Engineering Supervisor
    markmarshman@wjwb.com (904) 646-5013

    _____________________________
    I have several other stations in the area that are multicasting, and every DT and HD format possible some with PSIP and some without. WJWB is the only station that is immune to DVR functions.

    edit- I have completed testing of the DVHS VCR recording of WJWB and using a DTC-100 w 169Time HDVR connected to a DVHS Mitsubishi HSHD2000U VCR, recorded and played back fine on both sub-channels.

    I will now contact the station with my results.
     
  15. John Quaglino

    John Quaglino AllStar

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    Mark,

    Once again, I offer my services to record a small bit of my stream via the MyHD card. The stream could then be studied by the programers.
     
  16. lex61564

    lex61564 AllStar

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    Feb 10, 2004
    KRCG-TV Channel 13 (13.1 DTV)
    P.O. Box 659
    Jefferson City, MO 65102
    ** Main Office: 573-896-5144
    ******************Fax: 573-896-5193

    jmalone@krcg.com
    Technical
    For questions related to technical issues (ie: reception, broadcast quality) contact Jim Malone,
    Chief Engineer at KRCG.

    Equipment:
    For questions concerning equipment issues
    (HD TV's, tuners, etc.) contact Pat Marks of Columbia Photo.
    expert@columbiaphoto.com


    Programming*
    For questions about HD programming contact Lee Gordon, KRCG Programming Director.
    lgordon@krcg.com

    That's here in Missouri, Keep losing that channel even when I can get it
    super clear. It is a VHF D channel, Hum?
     
  17. Mark Lamutt

    Mark Lamutt Your Neighborhood Liasion

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    Update:

    Thanks for the offer to help John Q. - I look forward to getting your recording to pass along.

    If any of the rest of you in the "problem station" cities have a PC HD recording card (hipix, MyHD, AccessDTV, Fusion, etc), or know someone that does, I'm now trying to collect 1-2 minute recording files from each of the problem stations to send to Eldon for analysis. If you can help me out, please let me know.
     
  18. markjl

    markjl New Member

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    WHO in Des Moines, Iowa
    ATSC Channel 19
    Remapped to 13.1 (HD) and 13.2 (SD)

    WHO TV
    1801 Grand Avenue
    Des Moines, Iowa 50309
    515-242-3500

    whotv.com

    No DVR or recording functions on either channel.

    Mark
     
  19. sam-tip

    sam-tip New Member

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    WHO TV
    channel 19
    13.1 and 13.2

    whotv.com

    1801 Grand Ave, Des Moines, IA 50309
    Phone: (515) 242-3500

    NO DVR and NO record

    I must report that DVR functions and recording now works. I don't know what they did but it now works. As of April 15 2004. Thanks
     
  20. wileadams

    wileadams Mentor

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    These recordings were ones done with the receiver turned off over a 96 hour period to test the timers. I hope that the format is cool. When I say PVR OK, I mean when doing virtual pause of a live program.

    WTTV WB4 and WXIN FOX59 Indianapolis, Indiana, Rick Poling (RPoling@tribune.com)
    (53.1) 004-01 WTT [WTTV] PVR OK, 5 recordings out of 5.
    (53.2) 004-02 WXI [WXIN] PVR OK, 5 recordings out of 5.
    (45.1) 059-01 WXI [WXIN] PVR OK, NO recordings out of 5.
    (45.2) 059-02 WTT [WTTV] PVR OK, NO recordings out of 5.

    WTTV/WTTK/WXIN are owned and operated by Tribune and they have the same equipment running three broadcast towers in Indiana. WTTV in southern Indiana (and WTTK in northern Indiana) and WXIN digital stations. There has to be something set differently between WTTV and WXIN, as I can record just fine everytime on WTTV and WXIN from the WTTV-DT53 feed, but when I try to record either feed from the WXIN-DT45 feed, I can not record it.

    WISH-TV 8 (CBS), Indianapolis, Indiana, Terry Van Bibber (tvanbibber@wishtv.com)
    09.1 008-01 [WISH] PVR OK, NO recordings out of 3.
    09.2 008-02 [LWS] PVR OK, NO recordings out of 3.
    09.3 008-03 [Radar] PVR OK, NO recordings out of 3.

    I am going to have to go back and retest these because after doing the test, I found that this channels looks like it is one of the Showtime channels. So, when listed in the DVR Recordings, it will say it is that channel and give that channel's program information. Very strange. So, I know I have one successful recording from this station, now. Will update tonight after JAG.

    WFYI 20 (PBS), Indianpolis, Indiana, (317) 636-2020
    21.1 020-01 [WFYI] PVR OK, 3 Recordings out of 3 (Not able to use PVR functions in recordings).
    21.2 020-02 [WFYI] PVR OK, 2 Recordings out of 2 (Did not test PVR functions while watching recording).
    21.3 020-03 [Idea] PVR OK, 3 Recordings out of 3 (Not able to use PVR functions in recordings).

    WRTV6 (ABC), Indianapolis, Indiana, (317) 635-9788
    25.1 025-01 [WRTV] PVR OK, 3 Recordings out of 5. Other two listed as 0 record time.
    25.1 025-02 [NC64] PVR OK, Recording not tested.

    WTIU 30 (PBS), Bloomington, Indiana, Brad Howard (bhoward@indiana.edu)
    14.1 030-01 [WTIU] PVR OK, No recordings out of 3. Listed 0 record time.
    14.2 030-02 [WTIU] PVR OK, No recordings out of 3. Listed 0 record time.
     

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