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Urgent HR44 wiring question

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by rtcage, Jun 14, 2013.

  1. rtcage

    rtcage New Member

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    DTV install tech is saying that HR44 cannot take straight cat 5 to the box if we are feeding the clients with coax. he says that we have to go deca. Is that true? I ask because I want to try to go Cat 5 to my RVU samsung TV and I cant see how that would work if the HR44 is feeding off of coax. I only know a little about this stuff so forgive me if I am botching the description
     
  2. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    You can indeed connect the HR44 with Ethernet, but connecting with coax will not prevent the tv to access the smart features



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  3. rtcage

    rtcage New Member

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    So ethernet to the HR44 without deca will allow clients to get internet through coax?
     
  4. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    Yes
     
  5. rquick

    rquick New Member

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    If you already have DECA on your coax for the clients, then the HR44 is also going to use that DECA for its network connection. What additional benefit would there be to connecting Cat5 to the HR44? You can hook up your other equipment, like the tv, any way you want to.
     
  6. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    The tech is 100% wrong. The HR44 is designed to connect directly with ethernet, or use wi-fi. One of the design goals was the elimination of the broadband DECA.
     
  7. inkahauts

    inkahauts DIRECTV A-Team

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    Where you asking him to run an Ethernet cable all the way to your Samsung tv or something? No reason not to use the hr44 ethnet port as the bridge to the network.
     
  8. David Ortiz

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    These are probably pretty common errors too. For the longest time it was one coax per tuner. Then SWiM came along and it changed to one coax per box. Then the built in DECA came along in the 24 series and using ethernet at the same time was a definite no-no. Then Genie came along and made it OK. It can be tricky to keep it all straight.
     
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  9. goinsleeper

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    Indeed but when you're the technician doing the install, you should know all of this. Especially when you summed it up that quickly.
     
  10. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    Indeed but when you're the technician doing the install, you should know all of this. Especially when you summed it up that quickly.


    Right on! Is like being an electrician and not being up to date on the NECs, although those can be remind by the inspectors...
     
  11. Stevies3

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    Well said
     
  12. rtcage

    rtcage New Member

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    Interesting. The tech said that direct ethernet to the HR44 would disable the internet feed through coax. He even got one of his inside phone techs to confirm. Bottom line, he went deca and everything else feeds with coax.
     
  13. inkahauts

    inkahauts DIRECTV A-Team

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    That is the way everything before genie worked. Not anymore. Training is still behind on the genies evidently.
     
  14. Rosco

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    So would it be wrong to have both a CCK kit on the SWM system for the HRxx and an Ethernet connection to the Internet on the Genie? Just installed a Genie on my system, whole home works fine, and I used a CCK kit for the SWM. I haven't tried the Internet on it, but dtv's website says it isn't connected.
     
  15. peds48

    peds48 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    So would it be wrong to have both a CCK kit on the SWM system for the HRxx and an Ethernet connection to the Internet on the Genie? Just installed a Genie on my system, whole home works fine, and I used a CCK kit for the SWM. I haven't tried the Internet on it, but dtv's website says it isn't connected.


    you can use either but never both.
     
  16. djrobx

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    The Genie is a bridge. You could use the ethernet port to connect to the TV, and another CCK in a different location that gets internet to the Genie.

    What you don't want to do is hook both the Genie's ethernet port and the CCK to the same router (directly or indirectly). You don't want to make a racetrack for your packets to do laps on. :)
     
  17. Stuart Sweet

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    Completely agree. If you want to stay with the CCK, it's all good but don't also connect the Genie DVR via ethernet.
     
  18. Rosco

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    Ok, the tv apps are working and I can down load a movie from showtime and it has an I/P address. So I guess the website is incorrect in saying it is not connected to the Internet under the my equipment tab.
     
  19. peds48

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    Ok, the tv apps are working and I can down load a movie from showtime and it has an I/P address. So I guess the website is incorrect in saying it is not connected to the Internet under the my equipment tab.


    yep.
     
  20. cmock

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    I was told the same thing by a DTV install tech just yesterday. He came out to upgrade our system to the Genie HR44. I left specific instructions for an ethernet hookup vs. wireless. He called me at work to tell me he could only go with wireless and made it a point to make sure that I understood that if I plugged the ethernet cable in that I would lose the whole home sharing on all the other mini genies (as well as the other DVR we left in place) and have to call DTV to come back out and resolve. I would much rather use the wired connection as the genie didnt like my wireless password and I have a weak wireless connection. I am a little confused, but it looks like from comments here I can use a wired connection with no issues if I reboot the main unit with an ethernet cable plugged in and wireless disabled.

    Is everyone here getting the new mini remote with the HR44? If so looks like I need to call DTV as the tech didnt leave them or give the option. All the old remotes were left.
     

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