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Using existing UHF Remote Wholehouse Antenna Runs for Hopper System?

Discussion in 'Hopper System Support Forum' started by FarmerBob, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. tcatdbs

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    Thanks. Probably better off just moving the Joey and terminating the un-used branch.
     
  2. P Smith

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    I would gently open it and add a piece of wire (2.4 GHz dipole) outside of the box, if I'm desperate with reception...
     
  3. charlesrshell

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    FarmerBob, I like that idea of connecting your UHF remote antennas to hot water heat pipes. How did you do that? Thanks
     
  4. FarmerBob

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    A Grounding Clamp . . . Took a length of coax stripped back the ground and, at first just wrapped the copper core around the pipe, then got the clamp to tie it down securely. It's now a real ground using a length of aluminum ground that I got in the initial 1994 DISH DIY Install kit. Yup, still have it. Never needed it. Had everything I needed in stock.

    The strange things is that is worked for years, then just stopped. That's when I went to the RG59 and Antennas throughout the house.

    When I asked the question if you could do this sort of thing with the Hopper not much was known about the antenna connection on the back of the box. Just the other night I saw an installation brief on the Hopper 2 and they spoke of attenuating the RF Remote signal by using a "store bought" attenuator. I guess they don't supply them anymore. So that tells me that the connection has to be a standard threaded coax. And in the pictures it looked like it.
     

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  5. charlesrshell

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    Thanks for the info. Wonder why it stopped working! I installed powered amp UHF rabbit ears on my two 722ks and it works great. I don’t have a Hopper system yet. Will order in a couple of weeks. Where did you see the installation brief on the Hopper 2? Have you seen this thread? http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/257130-TV2-Remote-Antenna-Boost-on-922
     
  6. FarmerBob

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    Yup. Saw your link way back in the beginning when I was doing mental Hopper install plans. Before it was really known how and how far the RF Remotes work. The piece I saw the other morning, 4am, if I can find it I will post a link. But it was a late night/early morning reading fest while waiting on overseas phone calls. I usually remember the gist and not the source.
     
  7. charlesrshell

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    OK, thanks. Is there a reason to use hot water pipes for the UHF extension?
     
  8. P Smith

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    yes: a) it's not grounded (but should, at least in CA we require that by code) and b) it's very long copper rod
     
  9. charlesrshell

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    OK, thanks.
     
  10. FarmerBob

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    It's actually a hot water heat pipe. There's at least two finned radiators in every room, if not under all major doorways. In the beginning I could change channels several houses up. And no problem changing channels on the outside TV's. It was great.
     
  11. charlesrshell

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    I had a 722k one time UHF got weaker and weaker. Did everything I could think of to get it to work. Finally Dish swapped it out and problem cured. Sometimes the DvR UHF port can go bad too.
     
  12. FarmerBob

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    Makes perfect sense. So now that I think of it, as we got boxes, 722, 325, 512, that worked for a while connectivity dropped. So my current solution somewhat helps with failing hardware. But the hot water heat bit was great. And too easy to do. Too bad it didn't last long. Oh well, I'm set . . . for now.
     
  13. 356B

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    Did you ever find a buying source for the M10 connectors?
     
  14. P Smith

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    Auto shop what fixing imported cars ?
     
  15. 356B

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    And is that suppose to mean? :confused:
     
  16. P Smith

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    the nut, M10
     
  17. 356B

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    So where does one procure this M10 connector? come on you can do it, just level with me. Who's got them, web page?, retailer, any help will be greatly appreciated.....pretty please........
     
  18. some guy

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    He said to look at an import auto shop.
     
  19. 356B

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    I don't have one where I live, I'll move on.....sorry for the bother.
     
  20. GravelChan

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    The only source I can think of is to order the remote extender cable (for a Hopper) from Dish, cut the cable in half and put F connectors on the cut ends.
     

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