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Using own router w/ UVerse 2Wire modem; Whole Home problems now appearing

Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by Lord Vader, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. Jan 5, 2013 #81 of 123
    Lord Vader

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    I'll leave it at that, assuming it stays as 10.0.0.1.

    Now I just have to double-check the 2Wire's settings. I disabled that thing's wireless capability so I can use my Netgear as the primary wireless router.
     
  2. Jan 5, 2013 #82 of 123
    Lord Vader

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    LOL! You expect me to remember exactly what I've done? I think I was trying this and that just to get its access back. :p

    Anyway, I followed these instructions that were posted by steve:

    Where I kept/keep getting confused is #1 and #8--how to set the Netgear's IP address via DHCP.
     
  3. Jan 5, 2013 #83 of 123
    Lord Vader

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    I noticed this in the 2Wire when I'm supposed to check DMZPlus button:


    I'm wondering if this is what screwed up my Netgear with respect to its IP address.
     
  4. Jan 5, 2013 #84 of 123
    coolman302003

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    On the Netgear, what type of IP Address is displayed on the Router Status page (under Maintenance section) and below that does Connection say DHCP?
     
  5. Jan 5, 2013 #85 of 123
    Lord Vader

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    There is no such maintenance section shown.
     
  6. Jan 5, 2013 #86 of 123
    Lord Vader

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    I think this is what you're asking about, correct?

     
  7. Jan 5, 2013 #87 of 123
    coolman302003

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    Yes that is, I notice that says LAN port, the directions posted above #2 show you should have the ethernet cable connected to the WAN port of the Netgear instead of the LAN port, this port is usually marked yellow or red. Now going into the 2Wire should be a LAN port not WAN.

    Also make sure 'Get Dynamically from ISP' is selected under Basic Settings for #1 & #8 step, and you will need to restart as stated in step #8.
     
  8. Jan 5, 2013 #88 of 123
    Lord Vader

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    I think that was for the setup portion only.

    I unplugged the Netgear and moved it into the other room. While I can get wireless access to it just fine, I cannot otherwise get any Internet access with it. I connected a DirecTV receiver and another Internet-connectable device, and neither shows Internet connectivity. Furthermore, when I go into the Netgear's settings page on my PC, on the Netgear's basic info page, under Internet it shows in big red "No connection." Obviously, something's wrong here. That "No connection" also showed when I had it connected directly to the PC.
     
  9. Jan 5, 2013 #89 of 123
    Lord Vader

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    Update: I went back into my Netgear's settings and did something and now get Internet access with it. I also had to change the connection on the Netgear itself. I went through the setup on my HR24 that is now connected to my Netgear, and the HR24 says it's connected to the Internet and that Whole Home is active and fine. However, when I check the Whole Home status, it says "No networked DVRs found."

    So now I have a problem. The HR24 says it's connected to the Internet, and it says Whole Home is active. However, none of my other DVRs are showing in the playlist.
     
  10. Jan 5, 2013 #90 of 123
    coolman302003

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    After reading back over the entire thread, it appears those instructions are if you want to use the Netgear to do all the "routing" because those settings you change in the 2Wire are basically giving no firewall or protection and would be equivalent to connecting a cable modem directly without any type of firewall etc.

    Anyway, I think you would actually leave DHCP turned on for the Netgear if it will be the networking equipment handing out IP address to your devices, go to LAN Setup and turn it back on then reset the Netgear.
     
  11. Jan 5, 2013 #91 of 123
    Lord Vader

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    The 2Wire will handle all the Internet connections to my PC and all DirecTV receivers and my Ooma Telo. My Netgear is being used solely as a wireless router that has wireless N and G and is more powerful than the crappy 2Wire. Because of this, the Netgear is in another room where one of the HR24's is also located and connected via an ethernet cable that comes directly from my 2Wire.

    I have that ethernet cable going to my Netgear's WAN port, then an ethernet cable from the Netgear's LAN port into the HR24. It shows it's connected to the Internet, but my other DVRs are not showing in the playlist.
     
  12. Jan 5, 2013 #92 of 123
    Lord Vader

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    Just an FYI, Steve--this is how I have it connected. My HR tests as being connected, but when I go to the Whole Home Setup, it shows connected and authorized, but it also says "No networked DVRs found." Obviously there is a problem somewhere.
     
  13. Jan 5, 2013 #93 of 123
    coolman302003

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    Do you have the [​IMG] displayed under STB Services Port. This is found by holding down Info on the remote about 3-5 secs then More System Info. If you do, proceed to Network Setup>Network Services>Connect Now
     
  14. Jan 5, 2013 #94 of 123
    Lord Vader

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    No, that is not present. As I said, everything shows connected.

    Anyway, I fixed the problem. It's not exactly pretty, but it works. Here's what I did, mainly because I've spent enough time on this crap.

    I had an extra DLink 8-port switch lying around. I took that and set it next to the Netgear router. I took the ethernet Internet cable from the 2Wire that was going into the Netgear's WAN port and connected it to port #1 of the DLink hub. I then took the Netgear's ethernet cable from its LAN port #1 that was running to the HR24 and connected it to the DLink's port #2 and ran it from there to the HR24. Finally, I took an additional ethernet cable and ran it from my DLink's port #3 then ran it to my Netgear's WAN port.

    Like I said, it ain't pretty, but it accomplishes what I wanted to accomplish in that room: getting a powerful wireless signal and maintaining my HR24's hard-wired connectivity and Whole Home connectivity.

    I think this matter is now closed. For now. But feel free to scratch your head as to what I did. Like I said, I don't care; it works, and that's all that matters. :joy:

    What have we all learned from this saga? Oh, that's easy--AT&T Uverse Internet sucks. Sucks big time!
     
  15. Jan 5, 2013 #95 of 123
    coolman302003

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    Glad to hear you got it fixed! Whatever works right? I hope I didn't confuse you to much either, at times I think I even confused myself.

    Note to self: Do not switch to U-Verse Internet anytime soon, especially as I hate the idea of the all in one gateways in the first place. I will be keeping Charter Cable for the foreseeable future, and with the cable modem, router, and switch all separate.
     
  16. Jan 5, 2013 #96 of 123
    swyman18

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    Messing around with routers, switches and gateways can be frustrating, but it's also a great learning experience in order to understand the basics of networking. After reading through your experience here, it reminds of exactly what I went through when I decided to expand my home network a couple of years ago. Trust me, the more you do it the more it will all make sense.
     
  17. Jan 5, 2013 #97 of 123
    Lord Vader

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    Well, I don't know if really learned anything that I was supposed to learn, because the ultimate connection that I thought I should have done and that was suggested by someone else here turned out to not work. I just kind of surmised that a different kind of connection would work, and it did.
     
  18. Jan 5, 2013 #98 of 123
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    Even a blind squirrel....
     
  19. Jan 5, 2013 #99 of 123
    dennisj00

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    You don't want / need the #3 cable from the switch to the Netgear WAN port.

    Infact, if you remove the #1 cable and plug it into a LAN port - and remove the switch completely, you should have the same results.
     
  20. Jan 5, 2013 #100 of 123
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    In fact, that was in post #2 from the Merg!

    And only have DHCP on on the 2-wire. The post #86 above shows it also on on the Netgear.
     

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