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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Tubaman-Z, Jan 13, 2010.
How are you picking up CTV? (it appears you are in Georgia I believe) Online only?
They know this is going to run over, I'm sure all of the local stations are aware. I would be the show is formatted to run until at least 5:15. Like Red Dog said, they've run over a couple of times already, they won't leave until the game is over.
Hoosier I am watching via online. CTV's coverage demonstrates how easy it would be for NBC or any other broadcaster to show everything live. NBC's ratings are sky high. The network uses that as an excuse to say they are doing this right. Of course the ratings are sky high! For most Americans, NBC is the only game in town.
People forget that NBC delayed the airing of the Olympics on the west coast when they were in Salt Lake City in 2002 as well.
You may find it surprising that Dick Ebersol actually has advocated for the games to be live. You know who forced NBC's hand? Their affiliates. Ever since, NBC has acquiesced to their west coast affiliates request to air the games in prime time regardless of what time zone they are being played live in.
It costs NBC more to air the games on delay than it does to air them live coast to coast.
Here's an article from 2001 that sums up the issues nicely.http://www.mediapost.com/publications/index.cfm?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=12039
Your complaint e-mails should go to your local affiliates as well as NBC. Only the games on broadcast network NBC are tape-delayed. All the games on the NBC cable networks air live. That tells you everything you need to know about what NBC's broadcast preference would be if they had their way vs. having to listen to their affiliates.
Wow. The same NBC that said "FU" to its affiliates when they put Leno at 10 pm acquiesced to them? Wow.
Another arguement that doesn't hold water. Today's USA-Swiss game and Sunday's Gold Medal game ARE NOT being played in Prime Time.
This is totally unacceptable and if the USA makes it to the Gold Medal game, hockey fans in the West will be howling.
And the viewer continues to suffer at the hands of NBC's nonsense.
So would you rather them tape the game and not show it until later?
Sunday night is the closing ceremonies, so what are they going to do about them.
It's a good thing CTV isn't available nationwide in the US, because if it were NBC would be lucky to have 1 viewer! Most of the coverage live and all in beautiful, beautiful HD. Of course Directv would probably only carry the SD feed, like MSNBC!
Tony, thank you so much for finding that article.. I've been looking for proof for a while now that it was not Ebersol's decision for the tape-delay from Salt Lake, it was the affiliates. Now maybe they should re-think the arrangement and/or allow affiliates live coverage if they want, but for everyone that thinks that Dick Ebersol was the sole figurehead behind that decision needs to know there were other forces involved. Again, thank you for this article.
It would be legal for D* to pick up CBC, CTV, and any other Canadian OTA network, but they could only provide it to people who live in the "Canadian Border Zone". I wish they would pick it up, I would love to be able to watch the CBC and CTV feeds from Winnipeg.
I only have 2 base "issues" with the Olympic Coverage:
1) MSNBC is not in HD (which cuts out about 10% of what I would have watched during the entire Olympics timeframe)
2) The excessive Costas and Williams airtime - some segments have seemed like their own personal talk show, not Olympics coverage.
Otherwise, alot of the coverage, especially the HD coverage of speed skating, figure skating, all the snowboarding, pipeline, and skiing have been stellar.
Right on target. Costas has been particularly obnoxious this Olympics -- I've never been a big fan, but he's been doubly arrogant and cold this time around. We know how smart and funny you think you are Bob, we get it! Really! lol.
Would've preferred Al Michaels anchoring myself, he's done a good job on the daytime/weekend shift.
No I'd rather see the game live!!! I live in the Pacific Time Zone and ALL Olympic Programming shown on NBC is delayed by three hours, even on the weekends. Cable programming is shown live.
The Gold Medal game is at Noon PT while the closing ceremonies are set to start six hours later. (Forgive me but I don't understand your what your points are).
Ebersol has always said his job is to get the "most eyeballs to the screen" and that means running it in primetime, whether it's live or tape.
In this quote from 2008, he expressly states viewers on the west coast prefer the games taped, so it's not so much an affiliate issue to him -- but rather what NBC believes "the people want."
"It's live on the East Coast and in the Central time zone, which is roughly 81 to 82 percent of all the households in the United States. Historically, we have always shown the Olympics on tape on the West Coast. We have repeatedly done significant testing or polling, if you want to call it that, on the West Coast. And they have told us - the viewers have repeatedly told us that the vast majority of them, well in excess of 80 percent, want to see the Olympics when they're available to see the Olympics. They don't want to see the key events of the day happening at 4 or 5 o'clock their time. They want to get home and watch them, and that's why there's a delay on the West Coast. And you know what? Strangely enough, in every Olympics that I have done, going back to 1992, every Olympics, the audience on the West Coast over-indexes against all the other regions in the United States. They love sports so much, and they know when they want to watch it, and that's in primetime."
It's also possible that Ebersol saw the numbers from 2002 and realized the affiliates were right and that it led to better ratings to have the delay. I was surprised that the Beijing coverage wasn't live to all time zones, especially since most of the live coverage on the East coast occurred after 10pm and would have fit nicely into primetime in the Pacific and Mountain time zones.
I think it's probably too much work for them to coordinate that, and then have to run the rest of the coverage on the West Coast that the East Coast already watched...either way, don't get me wrong -- I'm not agreeing with Ebersol, just putting forward what he believes.
I still can't get over the fact these Olympic hockey games at 3pm EST aren't being shown live on the West Coast. It's not like they're saving THESE games for primetime -- why not air them live? I feel sorry for folks outside the est/central zones, it just sucks.
Just a update. USA vs Finland/CZE semifinals game will be live across all time zones on Friday on NBC.