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Verizon iPhone?

Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by barryb, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. dpeters11

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    I would think with data going over LTE, voice over CDMA would work simultaneously. Verizon has also stated they will be doing LTE voice by 2012. That should be fantastic. At one point, they were also testing VORA, Voice over Rev. A, as a temporary measure.

    One problem I have is various things I've seen from AT&T and some sites saying that the Verizon iPhone can't do voice and data at the same time, but not making the distinction that is when on Verizon's network for data. I've had some users think that meant wifi as well, all data.
     
  2. The Merg

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    That is a good point. The dual voice/data dilemna is only when using Verizon's 3G network for data. However, while that is not an issue if you are using wifi for data, I would gather that most users will be using 3G for data most of the time.

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  3. dmurphy

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    Actually, I suspect quite the opposite is true.

    I have full WiFi coverage just about everywhere. Both at home, at work, and outside -- Cablevision has blanketed the NY/NJ/CT area with WiFi hotspots all over the place, so I can pick up a WiFi signal in most locations.

    Nevermind the WiFi available at Starbucks, McD's, and lots of other stores.

    Frankly, the 3G is just to fill in the gaps - I'd say 80-90% of the time, I'm on WiFi.
     
  4. HDJulie

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    I'm just the opposite. Where I am there is very little WiFi available other than at Starbucks or McDonalds so I spend 90% of my time on 3G.
     
  5. mutelight

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    I receive important e-mails all the time whilst on the phone.

    That is because text messages do not use data, they piggy back on the control channel and cost absolutely nothing to carriers.


    LTE will fix this issue as the voice and the data will be running on separate radios. This is only a current issue which will be resolved however, not on the iPhone 4 specifically since it isn't a LTE capable phone.
     
  6. Stuart Sweet

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    I will find specific sources if you need but it is a simple matter of the technology.
     
  7. jclewter79

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    Yeah, I would like to see some sources because all that I have read states the opposite of what you are telling us.
     
  8. BubblePuppy

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    Dual data / phone use is necessary to me as I often tether / hotspot my laptops to my phone. Getting phone calls while I'm doing it is a must. Plus my phone is my only access to the Internet at my house, having to make a choice between voice or data is unacceptable in my situation. AT&T is the best choice in my case, plus being grandfathered in the unlimited data plan.
    Here is a comparison link: http://www.intomobile.com/2011/01/11/verizon-iphone-att-comparison/
     
  9. machavez00

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    For the current iPhone users. Verizon has two plans: $15/150MB+email and $29.99($23.99 with my Corp. discount) unlimited+email (available for the time being) How easy is it to burn up 150MB, and does maps/compass count towards the data usage?

    http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/planDataOverlay.jsp
     
  10. Stuart Sweet

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    I can only speak for myself, with my AT&T iPhone. I have the 200MB/month plan.

    Yes, Maps count if you're not using Wi-Fi. But there is at least one Nav program (Navigon) that loads its maps right onto the phone so there is no need for data.

    Personally I use about 30MB a month on AT&T's 3G network. Three zero. Why? Because almost everywhere I go has free wi-fi. Work, home, Starbucks, Barnes and Noble, Panera Bread, all sorts of places. I hook up whenever I can, with the permission of the companies involved.

    I also am aware of my network status and whenever possible avoid streaming video over 3G. Heck (that's right, I said "heck") it's not like that's a priority for me anyway.

    Apps like Forum Runner, DBSTalk's own app and Tapatalk will help you keep data use down by limiting graphics, and many sites have iPhone "skins" that let you do the same.

    My friend Greg Alsobrook will most certainly disagree, but in my opinion keeping it under 150MB per month on 3G really isn't that tough.
     
  11. dpeters11

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    I would think maps would, as you don't have all the map data downloaded to the iPhone. I don't know if you would go over the 150 meg, but it's not hard. My wife isn't a extreme user, and since August, she's only been under 150 meg once, and she came within 7 meg then. Personally, I'd go with the unlimited plan. Cheaper than overages.
     
  12. wingrider01

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    do it fast, numerous reporting agencies have quoted the verizon executives that the unlimited plan is a short time offer and will probably only be available for the first batch of iphones
     
  13. Greg Alsobrook

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    I don't disagree, but I think it depends on your usage style. I also am regularly on WiFi, but I do have the 2GB plan just to be safe. I like using things like Pandora/Slacker while driving, and that can add up quick.
     
  14. dpeters11

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    It's easy to stay under if you're vigilant, but I know my wife turns wifi off to save battery and doesn't always turn it back on.

    But I admit I hate data caps of all kinds, and avoid them wherever possible.
     
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    I see the HTC Thunderbolt is supposedly going to be able to do phone and data simultaneously on 3G and 4G, I'd expect the next Iphone to be able to do it as well, only question will be will they release a new one for Verizon in June or just for AT&T.
     
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    Stuart Sweet

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    There is some doubt about the thunderbolt, as to whether that capability will be enabled and if there will be extra cost. Doing 3G and voice would require two radios and that takes up the same capacity as two phones.

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    trh

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    Just curious: do you have a rough estimate of what it takes to stream Pandora or Slacker?
     
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    Stuart Sweet

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    I want to say about 100kbps consistent throughput.

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    dpeters11

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    Pandora is about 30 meg per hour. Keep in mind, they are limited to 64Kbps on the mobile apps, on a computer with a Pandora subscription, you can go up to 192Kbps.
     

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