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Versus on DTV

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by kryscio23, Aug 19, 2009.

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  1. cobaltblue

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    I am directly impacted by the RSN dispute and believe firmly that D* should stand it's ground and use the leverage it has to smash Comcrap's hold on CSN-Phl. I for one have had enough of them running roughshod over D*
     
  2. Paul Secic

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    I had CSN Philly when I had U-verse. Isn't that unfair?
     
  3. sigma1914

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    I thought only Comcast in Philly had it. :confused:
     
  4. TheRatPatrol

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    I wish D* (or D* and E* would team up) and buy out C*. Then we wouldn't have to put up with this c***. Of course this will never happen. :sure: The worse case scenario would be for C* to buy D*. :eek2:

    Some are saying that D* is "sticking it to" C*. But if D* isn't careful with this, C* is going to "stick it to" D* by pulling off more channels in the future, especially if they get a hold of NBCU. I'm a little worried.
     
  5. WebTraveler

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    There is no further point in addressing you. It's simply not black and white like you want it to be. I am not going to change your opinion. But if you feel like you need to leave Directv over for what you believe is only a 30 cents a month or whatever you believe the negotiating point is, go for it.
     
  6. Tom Robertson

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    Just as Versus has turned down DIRECTV's offer.

    You don't have to see it to know Versus turned it down. They aren't on DIRECTV yet. :)
     
  7. Shades228

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    No they have to provide it by fiber but they don't have to provide it to an uplink center for dbs unless they have an uplink center or broadcast it through the air in any way.
     
  8. TheRatPatrol

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    Yet many of the channels D* gets now (including MSG HD) is via fiber. So I don't see how this "loophole" holds water any more?
     
  9. Shades228

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    They are also uplinked to a satellite feed for distrobution to other cable companies.
     
  10. RACJ2

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    I really don't know who's to blame, but I doubt that VS mgt will allow D* to keep VS on while they negotiate. If you read the quote below from the LA Times, you will see that they used some rhetoric to make it sound like D* pulled the plug [Link]. Of course D* pulled the plug, VS can't remove D*'s satellite feed. If it was OK for D* to continue to carry VS, why didn't he say "They can put VS back on anytime, we aren't stopping them".

     
  11. Mariah2014

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    The problem is they could put the channel back up at anytime, if they agreed to the terms that Versus is offering. Directv has stated they would be willing to put games/ channel up during talks. The problem is the type of talks that are going on are probably not the type to which would allow Directv to ask for that favor. They are type that probably resemble what is going on with CSN NW. They each contact once in awhile, when they both state they are not changing what they are willing to offer it ends without any other discussion at that point. This is probably why Versus keeps stating that they were nott asked if Directv could put the games up during talks. They can't ask because they are not talking in any manner that would result in an agreement anytime soon. Neither side is more to blame than the other. Each is equally guilty in this mess. The sad part is everyone else is caught in the middle of this including those who could care less about this channel.
     
  12. Shades228

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    This is all lip service. Both companies ran banners before it was going to be pulled that the channel might be pulled. VS ran their banner first. Ignore the PR crap and just acknowledge that you will never know what is really true and what is wordsmith. The only truth is that neither company agrees to a deal and so there will not be VS on DirecTV until then.
     
  13. Mariah2014

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    Very true, we will never know exactly who has told the truth to us in this situation. The situation has been PR Junk since before the contract went up. Remember Comcast ultimatly wants to be the only provider. By the time congress and the FCC decide to do anything about it, they will have a difficult time undoing the damage caused by it.
     
  14. ohpuckhead

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    These two corporations have customers arguing with each other on this forum. Divide and conquer. I don't care who started it. I am just pissed that these "providers" can argue out their greedy, power hungry battles and the fans are left to wait, or to go through the hassle of changing providers. Where I live my choices are TWC, Dish and Directv. Fios isn't here yet. TWC in this area has far fewer HD channels than D*. Everytime I think about changing to Dish I look at their listings and packages and realize, no way! So for now, I will wait out Versus and Directv. However, since it isn't related to this discussion :grin: I will take my thoughts about what really has me upset, the MSG HD situation, in the appropriate place! Thank heavens for unregulated "free market" capitalism. (Also known as monopoly economy.):(

    Maybe I can get me one of them Canadian dishes. (legally, of course!)

    How 'bout them Browns?!!!!!!:D
     
  15. riprecked

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    As Comcast grows, these type of turf wars will just get worse. When someone owns the content and distribution, issues will happen, especially when Directv is stealing Comcast customers.

    Just think what will happen if Comcast gets control on NBC Universal? More fights over pricing for NBC, MSNBC, etc.

    In a perfect world, content owners would also own distribution and distribution would remain open (or god forbid ala cart pricing for every channel!)
     
  16. jefbal99

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    The ignore feature is great for Ken's post, except when everybody is quoting him ;)

    Both sides have made offers to the other and both have declined on each others offers.

    When this ends (and it will maybe sooner, maybe later) it will be a much more complex deal than just Versus. It could be the entire Comcast suite of cable channels, could include the Philly and Northwest CSNs, could be something completely different.

    For a person who is not inside either negotiating team, who hasn't seen the proposals to try and make uneducated claims is just crazy. :grin::confused::nono2:

    My own OPINION is to place blame with Comcast. After they whined about the Big Ten Network, NFL Network, and the Sunday Ticket packages, I don't trust them at all. I think that Comcast wants to get households to leave DirecTV and go to their own video services by hanging these exclusive channels. Just another way to overcharge like they do for their cable packages, IRDs, HSI, etc. The only thing that DirecTV has exclusive is Sunday Ticket and The 101(if there are more, please let me know). Comcast had the opportunity to bid for Sunday Ticket, but declined and there has never been talk about The 101. I'm pretty sure that DirecTV would put an offer out there.
     
  17. Ken S

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    We can bank on one of two things happening with Versus. Either DirecTV will carry it and it will be in the Sports Pack (costing subs $13/month) or they won't carry it at all. Either way the DirecTV customers that care about Versus end up losers.
     
  18. Ken S

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    I've never said otherwise.
     
  19. Mariah2014

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    I think we can count on one thing. They won't carry it at all.
     
  20. Mariah2014

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    I don't even want to think of what will happen if comcast gets a hold of them, but then again it probably will happen whether we want it to or not.
     
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