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VIP 211 Hard Drive

Discussion in 'ViP211(411)/211K/222 Support Forum' started by amahdi, May 16, 2008.

  1. Oct 2, 2009 #301 of 355
    Rick_R

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    I got a second 211 for my wife's office computer. Then she said she would like to pause the TV when the phone rings. So I got another WD My Book Essentials 640 GB hard drive. Since my account had the 211 hard drive already activated I just plugged the new drive in. I got the message it had recognized it and asked me if I wanted to format it. After about 10 minutes it had formatted it and downloaded the guide data and bingo it works just fine.

    Rick R
     
  2. Oct 3, 2009 #302 of 355
    surfdude85

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    quick question. If I get a ehd for my 211, can i run the power via usb 2.0, or do I have to use an external power source? what drives out there use external power sources? They seem to all rely on the usb port for power. thanks for any advice and help here...
     
  3. Oct 3, 2009 #303 of 355
    P Smith

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    You should avoid using DVR's USB ports as power source.

    While specs by USB org required provide up to 500 mA load to external device, I'm not sure if Dish a member of the org and get registration of USB port for DVR. They mentioned a few times during own customer chats - it shouldn't be used as power source. Perhaps, it could be true, but I would reserve my final opinion before real tests will be conducted.
     
  4. Nov 8, 2009 #304 of 355
    nrspr007

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    Now it works. Pointing back to 119 and works fine.

     
  5. jake2071

    jake2071 New Member

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    Well....I got dish installed last week. Ive never gone satellite but im tired of time warner. I got 2 211k's and one 722 (all HD).
    Software version for the 211k's is L458RGGD-N.
    I am using a Seagate FreeAgent Desk 1TB EHD model:ST310005FDA2E1-RK w/the usb cable that came with the ehd.

    I first hooked up the EHD to a 211k. It checked for compatibilty and was ok then took me to the activation screen. I call dish to get it activated and the guy assumed i wanted the VIP722 activated. I wasnt thinking to tell him make sure i wanted the 211k activated. I read here in the forum that each different model receiver needs its own activation and of course...its own seperate fee. Ok, the guy said he activated it so we got off the phone. I was thinking i would reboot the receiver and it would format the EHD. Well, it didnt. I called to dish again and told them my story. She said the EHD was activated and i said it never asked to reformat and doesnt work. I told her that i read that there was a seperate activation for the 211k and 722 and i think the first person activated the 722. She told that i only need one activation. She took me through the typical BS and it did not work. She said she would have to put in a work order ans it would take 48-72 hours....f**k that. I was getting pissed. I couldnt wait 48-72 hours so The next day i chatted with tech support via the website and right off, they told me the 722 ehd was activated and not the 211k. I knew it...thanks to the forum. The had to charge me $40 again for the 211k activation but are giving me$40 credit for the 722 and unactivating that one.

    Ok, I hooked up the EHD and it asked to format right away and it is working good. I decided to see what would happen when i take the EHD to my other 211k which is why i wanted the 211k and ehd. I wanted to see if it would keep my timers and my recorded programs. I went to the first 211k, then the dvr menu and clicked "remove dvr". It said it will shut down the EHD, then remove it becuase the receiver will reboot in 15 seconds.....so i did. I took it to the 2nd 211k, plugged it in. It checked for compatibily and then said it will reboot the reciver for ehd access. It rebooted and was working ok. My recorded movies were there and playable. I now checked to see if my timers were there. They werent. But that was ok because this 211k is only to watch a movie here and there and then return it to the 1st 211k.
    So it seemed fine on the 2nd 211k. Now, i removed the EHD via the dvr menu then put the EHD back into the 1st 211k. It asked to reboot and everything was good. I check the timers and they were back. I guess the timers list are stored the the receiver and not on the EHD. Ok, the timers were there but they were not in the daily schedule. When the reciver rebooted, it did not do a program guide update. I read in the stick at the beginning of the forum to do a "manual" program guide update to refresh the timers daily schedule after an OTA scan. I figured this was the same for moving the EHD from receiver to receiver. I updates and the timers were all ok now. I guess the nightly update would have fixed this too.

    So.....everything seems to be working fine. Some people in this forum said that seagates had a sleep issue. I havent had that problem...yet. Maybe the receiver is constantly sending a signal to prevent the EHD from sleeping. So it is working ok. Maybe i have the latest receiver software....I dont know.

    It is a little time consuming for going from receiver to reciver but oh well. I dont want time warner and i wont be doing it too often. Hopefully everything will still be working fine in the future becuase i read that things seemd good at first and then later starting messing up. Well see. Well...thats my long as* story.

    later...
     
  6. Feb 4, 2010 #306 of 355
    newsman

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    I have a Maxtor 750gb EHD that seemed to die tonight. :mad: While recording Grey's Anatomy, my wife decided to hit start over to watch it from the beginning. Well, the system froze. Rebooting, and the 211 says the EHD is no longer there.:mad: I tried to repair it w/ my Mac. No dice. Should I try w/ my PC? Thankfully my Tivo seems to be working well.

    If my EHD is truly fried, any recommendations for a new one?
     
  7. Feb 4, 2010 #307 of 355
    P Smith

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    Test the drive itself first (remove it from an enclosure) - by MHDD (under DOS or boot from its CD) or Victoria under Windows.
    Then Linux (Ubuntu is good) for test EXT3 partitions.
     
  8. whyohwhy

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    Can I use a USB Drive for storage? I'm thinking of using a 4GB flash drive. I should be able to store a few minutes of buffering for rewinding, yes?
     
  9. jbaer15

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    No you can not, no flash or hybrid drives.
     
  10. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Try 64 GB flash drive, EHD size is starting from 50 GB, but remember - the 211 use 'EHD' as SYSTEM disk also.
     
  11. jbaer15

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    Flash drives of any size is not supported for DVR use. I am the 211 Platform Manager.
     
  12. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Nice to see someone who is in charge !

    OK. What about SSD with USB port ?
    Another question (perhaps rhetorical) - why 211 using pure EXT2/3 file system, not that hybrid as 622 ? It was been bad experience with 522/625 not counting 721/921 with XFS. I thought you did learn the lesson.
     
  13. jbaer15

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    Not at this time. :
     
  14. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Yeah, those guys from SI Dept are stubborn. ;)
     
  15. EagleTar

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    Just wanted to make sure that the vip211 will support a 1tb ehd.Found a great deal on one but didn't want to buy it if its not compatible.

    Thanks
     
  16. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Did you miss my reports ?
     
  17. zigzag

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    Ok, it's been a while since any posts on this thread. I'm a new VIP211 user and have found (by trial and error) that the WD passport SE drive with USB power works for a few hours, then reports USB external HDD has been unplugged.

    Has anyone used a external USB powered HDD sucessfully? I need a really compact, low power drive for this application (inside RV).

    Passport looked perfect, but it drops (or is dropped) at random intervals. Thought it might be drive spindown, but according to WD (if they have any clue what they are talking about), this drive does not spin down. Interestingly their website has a utility for the Passport SE drive to disable spindown (again.. makes me wonder if they know what they are talking about), but also interesting is that the utility does not run on the drive that is specifically designed to run on.

    So, again... anyone know of ANY super compact drive that will work with USB power? I see that Flash drives will not from reading the above posts. Has that been addressed or is this still the case?

    Thanks to all
     
  18. P Smith

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    If you can afford 1TB SSD .. why not use it? :)
    BTW, what size of HDD in it ? What model of HDD specifically inside ?
    Did you try Linux program to change of the power saving params of the HDD ?
     
  19. Skootch

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    Hi, I just activated a new 211K to replace my aging 4900 that I use in my RV. While on the phone with Dish tech support, I asked what size external HD I could use and was told by Mary (the tech from Ohio) that any of the VIP receivers, including the 211K, support up to a 2 TB drive. After hearing that I was all set to buy a 2 TB EHD but then I see on this site that it has been mentioned a few times that the 211K only supports up to a 1 TB drive. There was one post from a Dish employee who stated he has a 1.5 TB drive working, but never responded when asked what particular brand and model it was. I will anxiously await any and all replies to confirm or discredit what I was told. Thanks guys.
     
  20. thomasjk

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    The limit is 1GB for the 211s and 2gb for all other VIP series.
     

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