Well , i just came back to dish after having cable. i just received my 622 today from ups:hurah: i bought it outright, no lease. i paid $798 including install. But today i decided i would install it myself. I had the equipment anyway. Activating was no problem, i spoke with a great csr at tech support. He credited my account $100 because i installed myself. He said that i was one of the few who actually activated it this early. I have to say so far i am impressed with it. It is super fast with the menus and such. The pic quality is unbelevable. It is def better than my hd content from cable, and blows away the dvr(8300hd). BTW the reason i bought it is i only sub to the hd content. I only pay 29.99 plus the dvr fee. So after 18 mos, i break even if i would have leased, and i actually own it.