Ok I called cust. serv. and here is the price breakdown they gave me (with phone line connected to my reciever): One time equipment upgrade fee: $299.99 (They will give me a $25.00 credit for returning ANY owned reciever.) monthly cost... Dish HD Gold package: 69.99 Locals: 5.00 "receiver fee": 5.00 DVR fee: 5.98 total monthly cost: 85.97 I asked about purchasing the 622 and the rep said they were not yet available to purchase. So I asked when they are available, if I purchase it, will I be charged the receiver rental fee. She said that it I will be charged a "receiver fee" of $5.00 if I purchase the reciever. If I rent it I will be charged a "rental fee" of $5.00, so it is the same monthly cost wheather I rent or buy. Now, I have read in a couple of places that they do not charge the receiver rental fee on the Vip622. Is this correct? If so then my monthly charges should be $80.97 for what I described above. Before I call back and insist that I speek to someone who knows what they are talking about I want to make sure that I know what I am talking about. If anyone can help me as well as direct me to where on the E* website, if anywhere, these fees are listed I would appreciate it.