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Vod & Directv

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by davidord, Aug 3, 2007.

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  1. Aug 3, 2007 #1 of 128
    davidord

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    With the supposed VOD solution impending, it seems to me if DirecTV plans on pushing VOD out to the masses, they will need a user-friendly wireless solution. Most people aren't able to hard-wire a Cat5 line from there router if they have one to their HR20. Assuming DTV would like more than a small percentage of its user base to actually use VOD (if/when it arrives), the only viable option for DirecTV is to sell a proprietary USB wireless adapter for $20 or less, maybe with coupons for VOD pay-per-view movies.

    With that said, I hope DTV has the tech support to answer the barrage of networking questions that will arise from VOD installations.

    "Why is it asking for a password?," What is WPA?, What is an IP address? I didn't have to do this with cable, why isn't is just working?
     
  2. Aug 3, 2007 #2 of 128
    PoitNarf

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    Expect to see some sort of ethernet over power solution as an alternative to running cat5 to the receivers.
     
  3. Aug 3, 2007 #3 of 128
    davidord

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    I agree that is a good solution. But, the cost of the POE equipment may need to come down a little before it becomes mainstream. Also, the speed transmission rates will vary depending on the quality of wiring in the house. More variables = more calls to customer support.
     
  4. Aug 3, 2007 #4 of 128
    say-what

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    Not even TIVO sells their usb wireless adapter that cheap - it's like $50 +/-

    Even with the wireless adapter, you still need to know your network ID, password, WPA and MAC address depending on your settings.
     
  5. Aug 3, 2007 #5 of 128
    Earl Bonovich

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    And that right there is one the #1 reasons NOT to include a wireless hookup, or device... and going the route of the "game adapter" or the over the power line.

    If they do decided to go that route... then yes... they are going to have to have a support mechanism setup for that.
     
  6. Aug 3, 2007 #6 of 128
    Ken S

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    Earl,

    On the positive side for DirecTV there is incremental revenue tied to VoD. That will probably have them do something to make it as easy as possible for their customers to connect to the net.

    My guess is they'll develop a networking package and work with a 3rd party install group (Geek Team/Fire Dog, etc) for a very low fee and an increased time commitment on the customer's existing contract.
     
  7. Aug 3, 2007 #7 of 128
    davidord

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    Here's a Belkin Wireless USB adapter for $19.99. So, I think if DTV wanted to get VOD in the hands of its users it could/should do the same.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833314011
     
  8. Aug 3, 2007 #8 of 128
    say-what

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    I was talking about the branded unit. Sure there are other options, but regardless of the option, they still have configuration issues regarding your at home network.
     
  9. Aug 3, 2007 #9 of 128
    davidord

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    The Best Buy/Circuit City install group sounds like a good idea. If DirecTV wants over I'd guess a 5 percent penetration with VOD, they will need to implement a wireless or POE solution. Simple is better for DirecTV and the consumer.
     
  10. Aug 3, 2007 #10 of 128
    Earl Bonovich

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    While yes....

    If the times comes that they start to expand out to more wireless solutions, for the "non-geeks" out there, that can't help themselves...

    I really do see them partnering with someone, other then local installers.
     
  11. Aug 3, 2007 #11 of 128
    davidord

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    My point from the link is the hardware costs are actually low. I think DirecTV would be making a huge mistake if they tried to support multiple USB adapters (driver issues, etc.)

    Configuration Issues: I agree with that statement as well. The question is how does DirecTV push VOD to the masses assuming most people do not have a CAT 5 connection behind their TV set?
     
  12. Aug 3, 2007 #12 of 128
    Earl Bonovich

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    99.999% if they decide to include a wirless adapter... it would be one that is "branded", and be the only one supported...

    They absolutly will not want the mess that TiVo had on their hands, when different sub-versions of the same model device... didn't work (I had to go to 5 different stores, to find one that was the right sub-version).

    When is "N" standard, supposed to be locked down....
    It is possible that they may want to wait, until this latest generation of device is locked down, before going that route (purely my speculation... this last part about "N")
     
  13. Aug 3, 2007 #13 of 128
    davidord

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    September 2008 is the last I read about "N" being locked down. That may be a little long to wait for DirecTV. But, the added range and speed of N may be worth it.
     
  14. Aug 3, 2007 #14 of 128
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    I heard somewhere that D* has tried having authorized support centers in BBs in the past , so if they were to partner with anyone, it'd probably be Geek Squad.
     
  15. Aug 3, 2007 #15 of 128
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    You mean "EOP". "POE" is Power over Ethernet, as in "networked device powered by the network switch over the ethernet cable".
     
  16. Aug 3, 2007 #16 of 128
    harsh

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    Ethernet over power is a bad choice of terms. The correct term is HomePlug.

    I did a double take as I thought you were suggesting using "Power over Ethernet" (PoE).

    The problems with HomePlug is that it is relatively expensive and it demands most of the same complicated security configuration that WiFi does.
     
  17. Aug 3, 2007 #17 of 128
    Zellster

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    I was going to chime in with the same observation. I've been lurking here for a while and now I'm exposed. :eek2:
     
  18. Aug 3, 2007 #18 of 128
    Earl Bonovich

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    :welcome_s to DBSTalk... at least outed
     
  19. Aug 3, 2007 #19 of 128
    djousma

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    I actually just went out and bought a second linksys wireless router($49 - Best Buy), loaded some free thirdparty code on to it, that has a "bridging" mode, and just wired the HR20 via ethernet cable, and my older TIVO based hacked DVR40. the wireless router sets behind my A/V equipment. Works great, the HR20, and DVR40(now a DVR400) think they are hardwired to the network, and the speed is good.

    dave
     
  20. Aug 3, 2007 #20 of 128
    Mixer

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    Since they have already entered the networking world with mediashare and soon VOD should they train their installers to assist with this?????
     
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