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VOOM channels going MPEG4 August 15?

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by peano, Jun 12, 2007.

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  1. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Yep. All programming is subject to change. It is in the residential agreement.

    In your case, you will still be able to receive the channels on your ViP receivers. For those without ViP receivers (Voom as a $5 add-on) they will lose the channels and stop paying the fee.
     
  2. Stewart Vernon

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    It is hard to deny that on some level this is bad and probably unfair to some customers... but sometimes backward compatibility has to be sacrificed for future functionality and performance.

    I remember when they outlawed the old-style refrigerant and I could no longer buy recharges for my car... then when that same car air conditioner failed... I had a choice of putting about $1500 into it to retrofit the new-style system OR use that money towards the purchase of a new car that would come with the new air conditioning system.

    Stuff happens...

    Same with computers... Intel tried to be backwards compatible for a while... but somewhere around 486 timeframe they had to sacrifice full backwards compatibility to the stone age of the 8088 in favor of better performance for the new chips.

    Again, stuff happens.
     
  3. dublus

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    Would you expect them to offer a more attractive upgrade for owned 942's then?

    I've already got two 622's so I don't know where that would leave me seeing as I would be in violation of their max leased receiver policy (I think I'm right about that).
     
  4. James Long

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    At your level they will probably want to sell you your third 622. :(

    I don't see any better option coming in the next couple of months ... if getting the Voom channels on your 942 is that important it is "just part of the price".

    I would like to see the threshold raised so people could lease four receivers regardless of number of tuners. I wonder if they are still limiting leases as a form of rationing (to prevent a relative handful of customers are leasing three or four 622's running out the stock for new customers who just want one). 622's seem plentiful, but would they remain plentiful if third or fourth leases were allowed?
     
  5. Moridin

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    I can't speak to the issue of multiple DVRs, but check out my post in the sticky about the 622 upgrade deal for the offer I just got. Essentially they're paying me $100 to upgrade from a 942 to a 622.
     
  6. JohnL

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    Dublus,


    The short answer is yes. When you started your service with Dish you entered into a contract with Dish Network. Have you ever read that contract? There are many clauses in that contract, under most circumstances Dish doesn't enforce alot of those clauses.

    At any time Dish can terminate services or migrate those services so that they require different hardware, they reserved that right in the contract you agreed too. BTW you agreed to all the terms of that contract whether you read it or NOT.

    John
     
  7. BobaBird

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    Adding a bit to the short answer...

    The 5000 was no longer able to receive any HD channels when the last one was converted from QPSK to 8PSK modulation. That conversion also made the "Enhanced HD" module mandatory for HD on the 6000.

    When Microsoft stopped supplying the DISHPlayer's guide, Dish did free Dish 500 upgrades so those receivers could get the Dish EEPG (this was well before it moved to 119°).
     
  8. Dfal

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    I'm a 10 year subscriber as well and own a 921 as well.I have one owned 622 also.I absolutely don't want to get rid of the 921 because of the Phone not being connected fee,the dvr fee,the leased receiver fee etc... all these fees are driving me crazy. My bill is close to $128 per month.
     
  9. Dfal

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    Does anyone know if the 921 OTA will continue to work if they go full MPEG 4. It makes no sense that it shouldn't but I can see it happening if they are trying to force people over to a 622. They think we are all dumbies.
     
  10. diver90

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    I just had the discussion with them. 3 different CSR's. No waivers, no favors. I have been paying them more than $100/month for 2.5 years. They just don't care one bit. 18 month commitment or no deal. The alternative is go buy a box at retail.

    I canceled my service. Good luck to all of you.
     
  11. Stewart Vernon

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    I honestly don't see what the big deal is about an 18-month commitment for service you presumably want to have is... I don't want to change service providers every 12-18 months... so the commitment really means nothing since I plan to be with Dish anyway.

    I started a new 18-month commitment in November last year when I took my ViP622 upgrade... and now here I am about 9 months into that commitment and all is well. Time flies when you're having fun!
     
  12. diver90

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    A few years ago I had to cut our budget to just essential items. Not having the freedom to do so is something that I just won't do.
     
  13. James Long

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    The offers on the Charlie Chat were 18 month commitment OR auto-pay. Was the auto-pay option not offered or is that something else you are not willing to do?
     
  14. diver90

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    Auto pay was not offered.

    But that's not a material issue. The last thing I would ever do is let anyone/thing have an autodebit into my checking account.

    BTW your post is a little..... "something else you are not willing to do?" Ever tried to straighten out autodebit problems? Even with credit cards?

    I'm not the problem here. I'm the customer. DISH's approach makes it seem like it's an honor... it's not.
     
  15. Jim5506

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    Well, welcome to the 20th century.
     
  16. diver90

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    HA. That's so last century. :lol:

    I'd rather pay them $5/month for the box that they will make obsolete in 2 years.
     
  17. Moridin

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    For what it's worth, when I took the 18 month commitment for the upgrade (I asked about switching to paperless autopay instead, but it wasn't an option), I was told that if I cancelled before that period had elapsed, the charge for breaking the contract would be prorated at the rate of $13 for each month that remained. That didn't seem terribly unreasonable to me; that's a lower rate than what my cellular provider would hit me with if I cancelled with them.
     
  18. diver90

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    If that's the case, then DISH did a terrible job of training their CSR's. The ones I spoke with were essentially clueless. I asked to speak with supervisors 3 times and only got voice mail that was never returned.

    The last CSR, whose name and ID I have (as well as the others), could not have cared less.
     
  19. James Long

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    It sounds like the feeling is mutual ... you could care less about your previous investment in E*. So, where did you go? To some "introductory offer" from a cable system?

    Yes, some times getting a good deal for yourself takes commitment and possibly a little sacrifice. Every penny I've invested in E* equipment was done for my benefit - not as a gift to the company but knowing that I was getting the best deal. Sometimes that took upfront payments that cut the float out of my budget for a few months ... sometimes it takes a commitment to minimum programming or auto-pay. But as a selfish subscriber I do what I can to get the best service I can get.
     
  20. derwin0

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    But at least with the cellular company you own the phone.
    A commitment on a lease is ridicules.
     
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