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Voom... Why the stigma?

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by bartendress, Oct 29, 2007.

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  1. Nov 6, 2007 #81 of 170
    bartendress

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    I've been busy lately and not on the board. I can't believe this thread is still going strong!

    I can relate to the comments on the Phil Collins concert. I stumbled across, and recorded, a Depeche Mode concert on RAVE. When I sat down to watch it I very-nearly peed. It was THAT good.

    Unfortunately, the Madison Avenue guys need to focus on the stuff that Joe Average is going to recognize and find interesting in seven mentions. Voom could be such a 'hook' if they could find a way to promo it.
     
  2. Nov 7, 2007 #82 of 170
    zeekle

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    its been said already but I will say it again.

    I really like the variety of channels on voom. On paper a gaming channel, a horror channel, and a kung fu/action channel is a great idea but they seem to be so few updates to these channels.

    Most of the stuff on the gaming channel is 2-3 years old. They were replaying E3 from 2005 a week or so after the 2007 E3 event.

    I have scanned the kung fu channel weekly to see if there is any new movies that I haven't watched on that channel and its been a couple of months since I have seen a "new" movie (one that has not played on the channel before) never mind than they have no movies on that channel post 2000.

    The Monster channel seems to be similar although not as bad. I am unsure if it is that I don't follow the channel as much as the others or if they have a "pool" of movies they rotate so I don't notice the repeats.

    I would expect they could get the quality of kung fu/asian/action movies they have now enmasse for the cheap. I just wish they would.
     
  3. Nov 7, 2007 #83 of 170
    razorbackfan

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    I like the Voom channels. The HD picture quality is stunning. And where else can you watch Fizz and Gary hunt for bars and drink beer in high def?
     
  4. Nov 8, 2007 #84 of 170
    texaswolf

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    Depends on what you consider a national channel.

    Personally, I didn't pay the money I did for an HDTV to watch people shop at flea markets or auctions in HD...and I love the concept of Gameplay HD..but they are a couple of years behind on shows...however....monsterHD has shows on it that are great to see in HD...and some of the concerts are ok...sunrise earth is a great showcase of HD....
     
  5. Nov 8, 2007 #85 of 170
    James Long

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    How about "available in nearly every state"? (AK and HI would be the places where it is harder/impossible to get Voom - but that stigma also applies to most other channels. E* has a special package for AK and HI.)
     
  6. Nov 8, 2007 #86 of 170
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    or...how about available on a majority of providers line ups;) .....i can walk into a place with E*, D* Comcast, Charter, Cablevision, Time Warner...how many of those will I see it on...thats what i consider a "national channel"

    USA,TBS,FX,Sci FI, CNN, TWC,...ect....those I will find on some package in most if not all cable/sat providers.
     
  7. Nov 8, 2007 #87 of 170
    James Long

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    Not in HD. And unless you like countless hours of stretchovision/upconvert it's hard to find those channels in HD anywhere.

    But we've had this argument. Time to enjoy what HD you have (and let people enjoy the HD they have) instead of giving yourself and readers an ulcer over the issue.
     
  8. Nov 8, 2007 #88 of 170
    texaswolf

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    yeah yeah...the old stretch o vision claim gets old when your watching worse content in SD...again it's becoming a pitiful claim to justify not having those channels

    and a channel has to be considered National before its considered "national HD" no? I haven't seen any major complaints from other provider customers on why they are not getting VOOM...most people probably don't have a clue it exist...but i bet a majority would reconize those channels i mentioned.

    Last time i check we were still on the VOOM thread topic...you had mentioned it was National...i was simply correcting you.;)
     
  9. Nov 8, 2007 #89 of 170
    Ron Barry

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    Hmmm....

    Well by this definition KABC would be a national channel wouldn't it? It is on D*, E* etc. It is on TWC and Comcast that i know of. I think your definition is streaching the definition of a National channel to fit your argument and personally I think classifying a National channel has no relationship to the number of service providers that has it.

    To me, a channel that anyone within the network that has service can view it then I would classify it as a national channel if we are looking for a broad definition. National Channel equals the ability for anyone in the nation to view it. In my eyes it has nothing to do with channel popularity etc.. It is a national channel.

    On the same note, An HD channel is one that is providing an HD level output signal and and at least a minimum amount of HD level content. By minimum I mean greater than 0. The discussions then becomes not "Is it an HD channel or not", but "Is it a quality HD channel"

    Well I am sure people will continue to spin around this topic. To me Voom channels are National HD channels with unique content. Do I watch them? Very seldom because of my personal viewing habits, however just because I don't watch them does not make them not National channels and does not mean they dont' have value.

    Well perhaps my definitions are too open... but then again maybe not.
     
  10. Nov 8, 2007 #90 of 170
    kinglerch

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    We're pretty technical people here, why not be more exact? A VOOM channel is HD 24 hours a day, so each channel counts as "1". If History HD is broadcasting HD an average of 2 hours a day, that counts as 2/24 or .08

    Then, just add up the numbers and you get the average daily HD content. :grin:
     
  11. Nov 8, 2007 #91 of 170
    James Long

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    Or we can just forget it, avoid yet another counting thread, and ENJOY THE HD WE HAVE!
     
  12. Nov 8, 2007 #92 of 170
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    or don't have..Charter just added TWC HD and Cablevision added CNN, amongst other cable companies...it'd be nice to see those in HD...since I went with th "HD Leader"....and I'm not into channel counts...just into channel demand

    Like I said, what "I" consider a national channel is one that you and I would see no matter what provider we were watching....most if not all providers carry most if not all of those channels i mentioned...some in HD some not....the same cannot be same for the VOOM network...E* is the one counting VOOM in it's"national" count to try and pad the "HD Leader" ad....i'm not trying to "stretch" anything...I'm not using hours of HD formulas to justify channels....just looking at it from a common person perspective...before I had E*...I never heard of VOOM...nor has many of the people who don't have E* or D*...I don't mind Voom at all...I just wouldn't consider it a "national"... IMO.
     
  13. Nov 8, 2007 #93 of 170
    FogCutter

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    Amen. Since there's really nothing we can do that matters we might as well. And there is some good content here and there.
     
  14. Nov 8, 2007 #94 of 170
    klegg

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    There are a few on this site (and I'm not naming names) that, no matter the E* topic, will put a negative spin on it...

    Sheesh, what a disappointment life must be.

    BTW, I watch VOOM about as much as I watch a lot of channels. There is VERY GOOD content on these channels. If you've watched all the content on these channels then you need to see a therapist or find a hobby...
     
  15. Nov 8, 2007 #95 of 170
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    Yeah no kidding..I mean who cares if channels aren't in HD...me personally..i bought my dlp so that i could watch channels in SD. I have no clue why anyone would want to be able to turn to a channel and have it in HD...I mean it's not like people signed contracts with the "HD leader" because they were looking for the most channels in HD.


    Don't forget the ones (not naming names) who will defend E* no matter what the screw up.

    I like some VOOM also, like i said before...leave it alone, and sandbag some PPV, if thats whats needed.
     
  16. Nov 8, 2007 #96 of 170
    kinglerch

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    But that's why I think the channel "counting" is invalid. Hypothetically, let's say everyone's heard of TBS-HD. It's got great shows that everyone watches. It's fully "national". But it doesn't broadcast a single second of HD throughout the day. This is better than one of the VOOM channels? TBS-HD counts more?
     
  17. Nov 8, 2007 #97 of 170
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    I agree counting is stupid...and I agree that VOOM looks fantastic...and TBS blows..thing is...how many people actually see VOOM, vs TBS, ect...thats the only reason "I" think channels are "national"...thats what i was trying to say...channels you'll find on most basic cable channels.... and again...that is only my thought...there really isn't a definition on what a national channel is...therefor companies will count whatever they will to a national count ad.
     
  18. Nov 8, 2007 #98 of 170
    kinglerch

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    Let's just say, infinitely more people see VOOM in HD than see TBS in HD...since the latter is zero. :p
     
  19. Nov 8, 2007 #99 of 170
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    Very true...I would just think a channel that is "national"...would be "national" in SD first
     
  20. Nov 8, 2007 #100 of 170
    klegg

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    I bought my DLP 5 years ago when there was hardly ANY HD, so it's not a big deal to me. It still looks good in SD...better than any new technology (ie. LCD, Plasma, etc...).

    BTW, I NEVER watch TWC or CNN. I'm sure there are just as many viewers (on average) that watch a Voom channel. I'm not even sure why watching those channels in HD would be good.
     
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