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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by jaywdetroit, Feb 15, 2007.
I hope construction goes well...that will be a nice setup.
I will soon be a fellow user of the HR20 system – ordered one yesterday for delivery on 10 September (I could have had it sooner, but that day fit my travel schedule best). They will also be installing a new 5-LNB dish and new multiswitch.
I’ve been a DirecTV customer since 1998 and was a very early adopter for their original TiVo based DVR. I still use two of my original DSR 6000 units.
I was a little slower to the HD game. I bought a true HD TV and an HR10-250 last fall.
I’ve know for a while that I would eventually replace some (all?) of my receivers with MPEG-4 HD DVRs. I’ve been watching (lurking) this forum with interest for about 6 months.
With a year’s worth of updates to the HR20 and the new HD satellite’s debut, September was the time to take the plunge.
At first I will just be adding this unit, but eventually one of the old series 1 DTiVos will go.
I have read many of the very helpful guides in this forum and many of your helpful posts.
Thanks to all for establishing and maintaining a great cooperative community dedicated to helping us all make good decisions about and get full enjoyment of our home entertainment systems.
I’m hoping I won’t require a lot of help with my new HR20, but it’s nice to know it’s here if I need it.
The first problem I expect to encounter is with the multiswitch. I need 12 lines and I’m not expecting the installer to be prepared with both the correct type of switch (Zinwell WBxx?) and/or one big enough for my system.
Hope I’m wrong.
My suggestion would be to call D* on the 6th of Septmeber to verify they have on their order that you need the 6x16 multiswitch. The 6x16 should be part of the install if you need 12 outputs. You could also ask for the local installer's direct number to call them the morning of the 10th to talk to them. Don't hold your breath though.
Also, FWIW, my understanding is that the 6x16 multiswitch needs power so make sure you have an outlet available at the point that the multiswitch will be installed.
Great input -- I have some questions about the multiswitch, but I'll go to the installation forum.
The multi-switch you are talking about is the Zinwell WB616. That I know of DIRECTV does not supply it. I have heard some members have been able to get a credit for it so they can buy it some where else. The cheapest I have seen it is $130 at solidsignal.com and newegg.com did have it for the same price.
You have the 4 outputs from the dish to go to it. The other two inputs on the multi-switch is for SAT's 72.5 and 95 which are used for some markets local channels.
There is no OTA input on it. With the new MPEG4 HD Ka lo channels you can not diplexe a OTA into the SAT lines. OTA and the new HD channels are on the same frequencies and will not work together.
Previous HR 10-250 owner here. Got the new dish and HR 20-700 installed this week. This forum has been a great resource for me even though I rarely post.
Installation: Guy shows up 2 hours late, asks me to hold the ladder for him, has to borrow a compass and tools from me. Tells me I am unable to diplex OTA signals into the HR20. A quick search on this forum tells me otherwise and I move the little adapter from the back of the HR20 to my main distribution point and diplex the OTA signal in downstream. Works perfectly!
The Good: First impression is very positive. My OTA signals are rock solid. They bounced around quite a bit on the HR10 and I used to get intermittent pixellation and audio drop-outs (especially on local PBS). Those are now gone. Family thinks caller ID on TV screen is very cool and they like the picture-in-guide feature. PQ seems a little better to me than the HR10 and am happy to see Native pass-through. HD-Net no longer has constant audio dropouts and pixelation. My HR10 always had trouble on that station for some reason.
The Bad: I set the Mariners game to record since they're playing back East and I'll still be at work when the game starts. I pad the recording by 1 hour so it should be a 4-hour recording. I play it later that evening and notice it is only 2 hrs and 24 minutes. I missed the last 2 1/2 innings! I set a season pass for "Rescue Me". The first episode recorded only lasts 24 minutes before stopping. What is going on here? It's a brand new box with the latest software but the first two recordings are partials. I hope this isn't going to be a frequent occurence.
You were really fast with the answer. Right after I typed that response, I realized it might be considered off topic for this thread so I edited and moved my questions to the installation forum (after a little searching answered some of them).
Hope that doesn’t confuse the flow of this thread.
I just got hd the week before last. So far its working pretty good. Just once in a while I have a sound out of sync with the video problem on some channels . Nothing like watching somthing thats looks dubbed, even though it isnt.....
I am learning a lot from these forems.
Just a quick ?
I have a hr20-100s box (switched from 10-250 tivo ) how do I make it call for software update ( forced call ) ? New installation as of 1 day !
:welcome_s to DBSTalk
The updates are done by the SAT's. After it is powered up and connected to a SAT line for about 10 minutes it should reset and download the newest software by itself.
As far as forcing a update you have to press menu-->Help & Settings-->Setup-->Reset-->Restart Recorder. The screen will go black for a few seconds and you will get a blue screen that says welcome DIRECTV. When you see that press 02468 and a couple of seconds later it will say new software found. Downloading now. Even if you have the latest software it will still say that and re-download the same software.
Had the HR20-700 (plus 5LNB dish) installed last week and like it so far.
My two favorite features:
- Networking - for music and (eventually) video.
- RF remote - so I can keep the noisy DVRs out of my bedroom.
Two missing features:
- DLBs - add me to the list of users who want this feature.
- Video over the home network.
Was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to setup the networking feature. Many thanks to Milominderbinder2 and others for the great documentation.
Currently this is my secondary receiver...but as I get used to it and when D* launches the new channels, it will replace my HR10-250.
Hi All, this is an awesome forum....
I'm a noob to this forum. I've been an HD user since 2003. I have a HT setup with a Sony HD300 D*/OTA receiver and 3 LNB dish. I have a front projector (FP) (with RGBHV input ONLY) fed by a TAW video processor or TAW in Bypass for the RGB output from the Sony. All this gear is fairly old. I get good HD reception from our local OTA stations. I subscribe to the D* HD channels, as well as local SD, but also get the west coast HD Distant Networks, ex ABC.
Now it's time to upgrade the dish and receiver to a HR20 setup, and i guess i better hurry because the HR21 has no OTA tuners....
I just dl the Tips-Tricks PDF file, and while reading it, i noticed it said "Only HDMI & Component (Y Pb Pr) connections are HD"---this assumes no RGB output. My FP is RGB input ONLY. The TAW ouputs RGB ONLY, and it's inputs are 480i ONLY.
I found this Converter--- HDfury at curtpalme.com/HDFury.shtm My FP requires RGBHV, i don't recall which polarity, but the RGB output of my Sony HD300 is the correct one. Does anyone know if the polarity of the HDMI output of the HR20 the same??
In another thread i read that in order to play the DVR, you must have satellite coverage. If i wanted to take the HR20 in the motorhome without a dish installed, and connect it to the TV and watch recorded shows, how can i do that? Power would be off while driving.
Thanks for any pointers.
First off, :welcome_s to DBSTalk, ron!
I don't know about your conversion issue, but I would suggest you start a thread in the main HR20 Q&A forum, and ask your question. There are a lot of really well informed folks here, and I sure someone has the answers you seek.
As far as the ability to play prerecorded material without the satellite connection, what you have read is correct. HOWEVER, this may be about to change. With the new Cutting Edge release, it *appears* that this issue may be addressed. You can read about it here. Good Luck.
Hi everyone, new member here.:wave:
Just joined yesterday in response to an hdmi issue with the HR20-100. We've been with Direct for 6 years, have owned their Tivos for 5. We still own an HDVR2 and an R10. I'm also "hokiepolk" over on the tivocommunity forums (not a big poster).
We put off the switch to hdtv for quite a while in order to get the best deal possible, give Direct a chance to fix most of the bugs in the HR20 as well as waiting for more hdtv channels.
Having fun reading through the forums—didn't realize how versatile the HR20 is!
Edited to add: Anyone here successfully use AppleTV or any Mac software to network with the HR20, or is that not possible?
I swapped my hdvr2 for the hr20 100 a week ago and kept my hd 10 250. The installed was for the morning and the installer didn't show till 2:30. But all went well with 5lnb slimline and receiver install. After having a little bit of difficulty with the hdmi at start up I gave him some information I found on dbstalk that component should be used. And trying that fix the start up.
After a week I found the hr20 to be pretty much to my liking. I know there isn't dual buffers and another problem I'm having is trying to record from the search feature. Even though I set to record from search it misses the recording. So I found that I have to record from the guide.
This morning I saw the big blue ring light lit up and after checking info I saw that I had the 18A upgrade so was wondering if anyone else has it on there hr20 100? Surfing the guide seem to be faster but I don't what else this upgrade is suppose to do.
I really enjoy reading forum and has help me much.
newb here. Upgraded to a HR20 yesterday from my first pvr (HR10) purchased a couple years ago when I fired the cable co. Of course buying the unit included buying a sony bravia lcd a harmony remote, recently a second bravia...
The HR10 now resides in a spare bedroom the 20 in our front room. I've been lurking here off and on for a couple years first visited tivo community and found this place due to the non-tivo platform the 20 is.
I used these pages (here) to program my harmony today and I'm still not completely satisfiedd with our new unit. I can't figure how to clack back and forth between the two tuners (ie. watching two games at the same time) but am here now to search it out.
I like this resource and am glad there were path-finders that share their helpful experiences.
:welcome_s to DBStalk srt!
You will find plenty of information on (lack of) DLB here and other threads. In short, common belief is that the HR20 is (hardware) capable of DLB, yet the software has not been modified to accomplish this task. It has not been determined why.
The resources available here are incredible, and the members here are helpful - whether it be networking, troubleshooting, dish alignment, or anything else you could think of regarding your D* system.
Another newbie checking in.
We got hooked up 2 weeks ago. Have an HR20 for our RCA 32" HDTV - picture tube, believe it or not. Got the DVR for the RCA 27" downstairs.
We are past users of Dish Network and Charter Cable - both had DLB, and we do miss that feature.
Thanks to all of you for mentioning you receive your OTA through the HR20. The techs who installed our stuff said it couldn't be done until the first of the year. I found out differently, and they will be here next Thursday to complete the job.
And I did just sign up for a paid membership.
Can anyone help / advise which DVD recorder would be a good match with my new HR20-700? I know I should be looking for one with component inputs and possibly a optical input for the audio. Right now my optical goes to my Denon receiver, but, I will probably buy a new receiver that uses HDMI switching which would 'free up' my optical output on the HR20.
This is a great web site! I'm glad the DirecTV CSR recommended it to me!
Thanks in advance!
Hi all! Newbie here. Just upgraded from my old friend, my HR10-250. Moved it to the bedroom. Now, I'm ready for all the new channels! My install was awful the first day. I thought I had a defective unit. But, after calling the installation company and getting a Customer Service Rep out this past Friday, I found it wasn't a bad unit. Just an awful installation of the new dish. Anyways, all is well now. I really like the HR20 about as much as my HR10-250 that I had for a few years. In fact, there are things I like better about it. But, I'm still playing with it. My question: this unit seems to run a LOT hotter than my 10-250 did. The internal temp of this is currently 125 degrees. I've searched the owners manual for this, but can't find it. What is the NORMAL operating temp of this piece. Should I be concerned?
Thanks! I'll continue to read every bit of info I see on this forum. It is a great tool!