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What are the best devices for "slinging"

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by El Gabito, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. gsanta

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    Richierich,

    What do you want for your Pro-HD?
     
  2. retrax

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    Maybe I should ask this in a different thread but it looks like you guys would know. I have a Directv HR24-500 hooked up to my HD TV with a HDMI cable. The guy at my local electronics store (they have a Directv sales guy right there) said my composite outs would stay live along with my HDMI staying live even when I turn the HR24 off and everything would work fine.

    I have read conflicting posts about the Slingbox Pro HD not working correctly when the TV is connected with HDMI. If I remember, the problem goes away if you leave the TV on all the time, but if you turn the TV off something gets confused within the system which does not allow the slingbox to operate properly (something to do with the Directv box thinking you are trying to copy movies or something). The only work around was to disconnect the HDMI from the TV each time, leave the TV on all the time, or connect the TV with composite cables and connect the Slingbox with composite cables.

    Is this correct, or have they fixed the problem? I think the only issue is with HBO and other premium movie channels not showing up through sling. I would like to be able to keep the HR24 connected directly to my TV with the HDMI cable and have the HR24 connected with composite cables to the Slingbox and have everything work but I am not sure if this is the case.
     
  3. carl6

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    The problem does exist with HBO channels. So far, those are the only channels where the problem appears (that I am aware of). In the future, there could well be more.
     
  4. Yoda-DBSguy

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    The problem you are talking about is limited to cable providers that require a cable box NOt satellite.

    Some cable box's turn off all outputs if the HDMI is in use, while other cable box's only allow the composite outputs to work while there is a live active connection to the HDMI port connection.

    the work around was to disconnect from HDMI completely and connect the TV with component cables and then the composite connection stays on for use with the slingbox regardless of weather the TV is on or not.
     
  5. Yoda-DBSguy

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    You a tad misinformed. The critical upload speed is at the slingbox hosting location (typically your house) NOT the remote viewing location. Remotely, the download speed matters.

    The issue arises for those that have crappy upload speed at the slingbox hostring location since 768+ is recommended for SD viewing or 3.5+ mbos is recommended for HD viewoing.

    JUST FYI:
    In home at the slingbox location (within your own LAN), viewing has nothing to do with your ISP's upload or download speed. That is determined by your router's specifications. IntrAnet is different then IntErnet.
     
  6. Richierich

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    PM me!!!
     
  7. Throckmorton

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    I want to be able to watch what's on in the living room, on my iPad. So if I have to leave the room for a while I don't have to pause it and make my wife wait for me. I can just take it with.

    I already have MRV but there aren't always TVs where I need to go.
     
  8. RACJ2

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    Do you own a Slingbox? Although the picture isn't always the perfect, its acceptable and runs smooth w/o freezing. Unless the upload speed is under 100 Mbps. I watch my Slingbox at hotels and the airport, on my laptop or phone. And most of the time, its the only way for me to watch my favorite NHL teams games while traveling.
     
  9. retrax

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    Thanks for the info guys, I am just emerging from the analog age. Up until December, I still had my old Directv silver colored TiVO tuner/DVR box hooked up to a 36" JVC CRT analog television. Technology has progressed so far, it's hard to keep up but I am here to learn and I appreciate the answers. So many cool things out there I am just now hearing about!
     
  10. xtc

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    sorry, you are incorrect. Because I have a slingbox and when I watch it in the home where I have good upload speed, when i watch it a friends house, with good upload speed, the streaming speed is fine. But when I watch it elsewhere like at a hotel or airport where the upload speeds suck, it is unwatchable. So it has to do with where you are watching from. And I spoke with Slingbox support and they told me the same. Until places like hotels and airports or anywhere public catches up to the high speed broadband most people get at home, its not worth having a slingbox if your plan is to watch it when you are away from home.
     
  11. Throckmorton

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    Let me paraphrase Yoda-DBSguy for you.

    The only UPLOAD speed that matters is in your house. What matters where you are viewing is the DOWNLOAD speed. So your friend's good UPLOAD speed is insignifigant. He likely has a good DOWNLOAD speed. Airports and hotels share their connections among many users so the DOWNLOAD speed, while potentially good, is spread thin.

    So you have the right idea, you're just a bit confused on the proper terms.

    Okay?
     
  12. xtc

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    yes i have a slingbox. and 100Mbps upload speed? not on this planet. Prove it that you have that. I've never even heard of that kind of upload speed, who in the world is your ISP??? Time warner charges $100 a month for just FIVE Mbps upload speed. 100Mbps would be ASTRONOMICAL
     
  13. xtc

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    I'm not confused, he just didn't explain his point properly. But regardless, the end result is the same whether its download or upload speed. Bottom line is public places do not have speeds fast enough to make slingbox watching watchable. So if the download speed is slow from where you are watching, you will not have smooth streaming.
     
  14. Yoda-DBSguy

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    Well sadly your still misinformed.

    Please see the KB article located On the sling website for a better description of how the hosting locations upload speed effects picture quality when streaming abroad.

    http://support.slingbox.com/get/KB-2000394.html

    The "upload" speed from the viewing location matters not. It is the download speed from the remote viewing location that matters. Only the upload speed at the "hosting" location determines the max picture quality/viewing experience.

    I'm a long time user, a beta firmware memeber and a long time poster on the lsign forums. Not to mention that I have sold unudreds if not thousands of units myself.

    Different things can effect remote viewing. Some IT departments limit or restrict ports on their routers. For example port 5001 is used as the default viewing portal. If it is restricted or bloacked that will cause issues. If your connected to a router is weakl or the throughput isn't there that will cause issues. On cell networks if your on edge, you can almost forget a fluid or clear viewing experiance.
     
  15. xtc

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    obviously you didnt pay attention. I said bottom line is that the locations where most people are trying to view their DirecTV content such as hotels or other public places are too slow to handle a decent stream. Regardless if it's download or upload speeds that matter at the viewing location, the bottom line is it's too slow, that is all that matters. Getting into technicalities does not make the situation any better. The sling idea is nice, but it is useless in this day and age unless you want to be constantly frustrated watching your content.
     
  16. Yoda-DBSguy

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    I paid a great deal of attention to your postings. You mentioned that the upload speed at the viewing locations mattered in regards to poor viewing senarios and I pointed out that isn't the case. It's the download speed at those locations.

    At any rate let me be very specific.
    I have a slingbox pro hd unit. My ISP is comcast and I have the 100/mbps down and 10 mbps up extreme package. I get excellent picture quality abroad from both my att iPhone cell (3G unlimited plan) from prety much everywhere I venture (while driving, starbucks, library, my childrens school, while camping in my trailer, and even while boating if I don't stray too far off coast. If I have 3G bars,I have service; and I have a solid streaming picture on my laptop, my cell and my iPad for that matter. sometimes I have to switch it from HQ to SD mode depending on the throughput of the area, but end with a very good picture even when in SD.

    So I suggest you do a simple speed test and post your upload speed from the slingbox hosting location from www.speedtest.net

    I use my slingbox in upwards of 20/mth remotely and have never had an issue.

    If your rather be stubburn and stand your ground that's fine, but you'll never get your sistuation working corretly as so many other slingbox users do.

    your choice.....
     
  17. RMSko

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    I have the Slingbox Pro HD and I agree it is fantastic. I use it often with the new iPad 4G and when I'm in an LTE area, it is awesome - a perfect HD like picture. Fortunately I'm grandfathered with unlimited data or else streaming 4G would probably not be an option. My only issue with the Slingbox is that every once in a while I lose video for some reason and just hear audio. Once I unplug the box and plug it back in, it works again with no problem. I have no idea what is causing the apparent "handshake" issue though and it may not be my Slingbox at all.
     

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