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What are your thoughts on Dual Live Buffers?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Feb 1, 2008.

What are your thoughts on Dual Live Buffers?

  1. DLB's are not an important feature to me, based on my use of the HR2x.

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  2. I might use DLB's if implemented, but I can live without them.

    221 vote(s)
    9.2%
  3. I would prefer DLB's as implemented on the HR10, but the current work-around is OK.

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    17.0%
  4. I want DLB's as implemented on the HR10. The current work-around is inadequate.

    167 vote(s)
    6.9%
  5. Until DLB's are added, I will not get a DVR+ unit.

    1,613 vote(s)
    66.9%
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  1. Starchy77

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    My DVR's have been pretty reliable - now just waiting for the DLB!
     
  2. Doug Brott

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    I have to agree that my DVR has been very reliable .. The only recordings that I've missed recently was one where I neglected to actually set the series link .. which, of course is to be expected :grin:

    In fact, in all honesty, I cannot remember the last time that my DVR got it wrong. I remember more times where I was thinking that it might have gotten it wrong but upon further investigation, it turns out that some last minute changes resulted in the HR2x getting it right despite the change ..

    I'm not trying to belittle others troubles, but for me my 2 main HR2x systems (heavily used) and my 2 lightly used HR2x systems have all been spot on. Even had one use GameSearch and actually find an NFL game that I had inadvertently set on a blacked out channel .. I was still able to watch the game later even though I got it wrong.
     
  3. keith_benedict

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    Those of us who are getting black/gray screen recordings envy you. I have to watch every program that I want to record start now because I'm afraid the DVR just won't record. Rather, I'm afraid that what it records will be 50 minutes of black screen followed by the last 10 minutes of what should have been recording.

    I'm on HR20 number 2 now, and I'm still having problems. Black/gray screen recordings are certainly not the fault of the operator.
     
  4. Oct 1, 2008 #2824 of 3895
    Que

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    DLB's are not an important feature to me, based on my use of the HR2x. 174 8.55%
    I might use DLB's if implemented, but I can live without them. 320 15.72%
    I would prefer DLB's as implemented on the HR10, but the current work-around is OK. 141 6.93%
    I want DLB's as implemented on the HR10. The current work-around is inadequate. 1320 64.83%
    Until DLB's are added, I will not get a DVR+ unit. 81 3.98%
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    Old DLB stats

    A must have! 2836 77.66%
    Don't really care about it. 179 4.90%
    Like the option but, Ok if it's not there. 637 17.44%
    Voters: 3652.

    Replies 2,965
    Views 146,826
     
  5. Oct 1, 2008 #2825 of 3895
    rawilson

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    If it were truly an "additional feature", I'd gladly pay for it. It is NOT and "additional feature" for me since the HR20 was sold to me as an "upgrade" from my R10. In my book, "upgrades" do not remove such a popular and useful feature.
     
  6. Oct 1, 2008 #2826 of 3895
    rw99

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    DLB integration on the old DirecTivo was seamless, as was dependability on recording. Clearly DirecTV doesn't know how to build a good alternative DVR. To me, a DVR without DLB is substandard... but we all take what we get, don't we?

    I love the DirecTivo DLB feature, especially for sports and for "impulse" recordings: you turn on your TV to see something (on either tuner) already in progress that you'd like to catch... as long as you're less than 30 min into the program you can go ahead and easily record the program in its entirety.

    I know I'll really miss my DTivo once the HD upgrade in my family room is complete.
     
  7. Oct 4, 2008 #2827 of 3895
    MX727

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    Well, I've had the HR22 for the last three weeks and it is a decent machine. I've become used to the guide and I do like the extra HD channels.

    However, I'm happier still that I kept my HR10 running next to it. My main focus of DLB necessity was sports. Tonight, I found another shortcoming in the HR2x series implementation of dual tuners.

    My wife was recording Ghost Whisperer and she started watching it from the list about 30 minutes into it so she could skip the commercials. Towards the end, she saw promos for the show that follows it, X List, I believe. Well with the way the buffer works on this box, she couldn't just roll into the next show, because when Ghost Whisperer ended she found out it wasn't on the primary tuner. That meant she would've missed about 10 minutes of the new show.

    Fortunately, the HR10 was also recording GW, so she could switch to that box and use the buffer to watch that show.

    I just will never believe that the D* developers really knew all of the ways that DLB was and is used. Whether people knew it or not, most, at one time or another have benefited from the DLB functionality of the SD and HD TiVo units.
     
  8. Oct 4, 2008 #2828 of 3895
    Mike Bertelson

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    Something's comin' and I hope it will be better.

    Mike
     
  9. Oct 4, 2008 #2829 of 3895
    MX727

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    Just remember, that light at the end of the tunnel just might be an oncoming train. :grin:
     
  10. Oct 4, 2008 #2830 of 3895
    MrDad0330

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    Ive posted on this before and I'll do it again. I actually like my HR20 and my new HR22. I am very comfortable with both now and to be honest, these units have operational characteristics in some areas better than my old Tivos. With that said, the ONLY thing I miss is DLB's. IF "D" ever wanted to be able to claim they had the best DVR on the market, they could IF the added dlb's. I don't for the life of me understand why they don't get this.
    A DVR is a great invention and I dont know how I ever lived without one but I strongly feel dlb's are a major part of the FUN that dvr's bring to us. I just don't understand "D" in this area. Look at all of these posts asking for dlb's. I even feel they could draw more away from Dish with a DVR with dlb's.
    All in all, I love "D", I was one of their customers before they even reached one million of us. I love my HR's, the HD channles, all that they bring to my enjoyment but they so miss the boat from having a good DVR vs. having a "dream machine"
     
  11. Oct 4, 2008 #2831 of 3895
    n3ntj

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    Ditto.. I like the HR-2x series, but the only thing really lacking and the only thing that D* REALLY dropped the ball on when they designed this thing and added features over time via software updates is indeed DLB.

    We keep hearing that "something better' than DLB is coming..well, I am still waiting. When is this "something better" going to shine itself? I am getting tired or waiting.
     
  12. Oct 4, 2008 #2832 of 3895
    rw99

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    "something better" for me would be functional DLB with extended length buffer. I do like the 90 minute buffer on my HR22 better than the 30 minute buffer of the old DirecTivo box...
     
  13. Oct 5, 2008 #2833 of 3895
    inkahauts

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    Wasn't joking....
     
  14. Oct 5, 2008 #2834 of 3895
    inkahauts

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    In the world of Electronics, an upgrade generally means more features, but not always all the ones that were there before...

    A perfect example of something that way to many people unfortunately seem to think is an upgrade... MP3 and other compression formats for music that have come after CD's... They do not sound nearly as good... and records had even better sound quality than CD's, in general...

    CD's could sound a lot better than they do too, but too few engineers care to make music sound great anymore... Hopefully Directv will be like the few that do, and continue to bring us improvements, including DLB... which I think is coming.....
     
  15. Oct 5, 2008 #2835 of 3895
    Flyrx7

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    Hmmm. OK.... seems like a reach just to make an argument, but I suppose it could apply.

    Coming from you, that seems hopeful indeed......

    Don't get me wrong.....but methinks you're softening up just a bit. Now all we need is for Bon and Bolt to admit that "it's not all that bad" too.

    It's ok...I'm hoping that pretty soon we can contemplate something better than DLB, ..... just as soon as we have DLB to start with! Then we'll have all the time to in the world to speculate....just might have to read a book instead :)

    Regards,
    Frank
     
  16. Oct 5, 2008 #2836 of 3895
    Jhon69

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    That's what my R15-500 would do once you press pause the live buffer could expand up to four hours with it's single live buffer.;)
     
  17. Oct 5, 2008 #2837 of 3895
    inkahauts

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    I think you have me confused with someone else... I don't think its as big a deal as people make it out to be, it being there or it missing, but I also think its coming, and always have....
     
  18. Oct 5, 2008 #2838 of 3895
    bonscott87

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    Eh? I don't think I've posted in this thread in a couple months. I hope DLB comes, I really do. I've never said anything different. I personally just don't need it. Is it wrong to not need DLB? I don't think so. Like I've said, hopefully DLB gets in there somehow. If not on the current platform then the next one.
     
  19. Oct 5, 2008 #2839 of 3895
    RCY

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    I was afraid you'd say that.

    Maybe one of our "insiders" could update us on the progress being made on the grey/black/blank recordings?
     
  20. Oct 8, 2008 #2840 of 3895
    Que

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    How soon? ..and do you really think it will be better?
     
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