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What are your thoughts on Dual Live Buffers?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Feb 1, 2008.

What are your thoughts on Dual Live Buffers?

  1. DLB's are not an important feature to me, based on my use of the HR2x.

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  2. I might use DLB's if implemented, but I can live without them.

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  3. I would prefer DLB's as implemented on the HR10, but the current work-around is OK.

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  4. I want DLB's as implemented on the HR10. The current work-around is inadequate.

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  5. Until DLB's are added, I will not get a DVR+ unit.

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  1. Doug Brott

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    You're missing the whole point of MRV then. The point of multi-room viewing is to watch something that has been or is being recorded at a remote location. If you want to watch Live TV, then you would use the Live TV feed of the receiver where you are located. MRV will not be used to watch Live TV from a remote device.
     
  2. dennisj00

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    I wouldn't draw any conclusions about MRV until you see it. And I don't understand why you think DOD over DSL is a disappointment. Mine works very well!
     
  3. sunking

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    This very well could be correct, however way way back when MRV was first kicked around and explained I thought it implied the ability to pause in one room and pick it up from there in the second. This was a long time ago and I could have misunderstood.

    However, keeping in mind that the eventual goal for Directv is the whole house receiver then MRV working with streams is back on the table. So the question becomes how much of a test bed is the HR and MRV towards that solution. I'm hoping there is more to it than just recorded shows. Kind of boggling that a company was able to release a PC version of that same thing before Directv could for their own receivers.
     
  4. Richierich

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    Why would I even remotely care about watching LIVE TV from another DVR via a netstream when I can WATCH it BETTER and in REAL TIME via the Live TV feed on that DVR.

    MRV is simply Netstreaming Recorded Material from one DVR to another DVR where you want to watch it with maybe a few Bells and Whistles added.

    And that if just FINE and DANDY for me! Come on MRV!!!
     
  5. sunking

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    Oh, not to get into this big debate, but with 1.5M down its pretty useless. Not saying its anyones fault but my own for a slow connection. Just saying its not even worth having for me and I haven't even looked at it in 6 months.
     
  6. Richierich

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    I definitely think that you need to get some good bandwidth to enjoy MRV or any Netstreaming in HD for that matter but in the coming months ahead higher bandwidth will be increasing as it is becoming big business and it won't be long until everyone has 10 Mbps or better as this is the Future of Electronics especially PCs and Netstreaming Devices such as the Netflix/TiVo collaboration for downloading Movies, etc.
     
  7. sunking

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    I don't really see much happening in the coming months to help things out on a national level. DSL is severly limited for most people due to line distance. No chance of significantly increasing that. Cable can increase, but only in short intervals. Their bane is that the faster they become, the more people want to download and clutter the lines. So they have to limit it to the first XXX of a download, then scale back. And in the end the users will want more than they can deliver. That leaves FIOS/UVerse, both of which will be years before they can claim a good availability to anyplace that isn't a lucractive city. It simply takes them a lot of years and money to do the installation on a town by town basis. And many places will simply never be economically worth it. The content is growing much much faster than the providers can upgrade. And they'll continue to upgrade the places that it makes sense for them monetarily, continueing to ignore/skip over the rest.
     
  8. Richierich

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    I remember alot of arguments a few years ago before I was fortunate enough to be the First Person to Buy an HR10-250 and have it Activated via Directv and I was told that High Def would NEVER catch on with the General Public because it was too expensive, not enough HD programming, etc.

    Well, I have enjoyed my HR10-150 since April 12, 2004 at 9:00 A.M. when I supposedly was the First Person to Buy and Activate my HR10-150 HD Directivo and everyone said HD wouldn't catch on so I look to the Future. I was King of Tivocommunity.com for about a week and it was great fun with everyone asking me about the DVR but Time & Technology moves on and so will Bandwidth and it won't be long until DVDs are a thing of the past because everything will be Downloaded Media Content onto a DVR type device that will monitor your whole house.

    And now my beloved HR10-150 is becoming Obsolete just as Earl said it would a year ago even though I can still use it to Record HD OTA feeds from Atlanta which is alot of HD content so all is not lost but it is becoming PASSEE!!!
     
  9. dreadlk

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    Is there really even any point to this thread??

    People have been asking for DLB from the get go, and still nothing, DirecTV has added VOD, DOD, mobile recording support, PC support and a host of other things but still no DLB. I think we can conclude that it's just not possible, maybe the CPU is not fast enough or some other reason. Lets face it, by now if it could be done it would have been done!
     
  10. Doug Brott

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    Yes, there is a point to this thread ..
     
  11. Lord Vader

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    Uh, no we cannot conclude that.

    Obviously you haven't been reading about DLB here, have you? There is no technical limitation to implementing DLB. DirecTV simply chooses not to implement it. They could "switch it on" in a heartbeat if they wanted. They don't want to, so that's the end of it. It doesn't exist because DirecTV chooses that it not exist.
     
  12. Que

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    Our HR10-250 is still in the living room. We use it everyday. Mostly only watch OTA HD anyways. Would I like more HD channels? Sure I love at bigger TV too. I have a 52 now. Right now I'm happy with HR10-250. In time with D* I'm sure "something better" will come and DLB. I'm also waiting for D* new TiVo.
     
  13. Garyunc

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    PIP!!! Forget dual live buffers. PIP is the feature that I want most. I miss it from my cable dvr days (still not going back to cable though :)
     
  14. GrumpyBear

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    I understand,PiP is really cool, but where you can have DLB withouth PiP, how do you get PiP without DLB?:D
     
  15. Richierich

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    When you have PIP do you still have High Def PQ???

    I bought a widescreen HD LCD so I could enjoy a nice beautiful high definition display. Why not just buy two display devices and have them side by side?
     
  16. GrumpyBear

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    Yes with PiP, both are in HD PQ, some of us don't have room to have 2 46" TV's sitting side by side. Or at my Parents house, having 2 65" TV's side by side, would just be WAY TO MUCH.
     
  17. puffnstuff

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    What kind of TV is it ? I've been researching for this feature and have not been able to find a TV with the ability to do 2 HD displays just 1 HD 1 SD .
     
  18. GrumpyBear

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    Sorry it isn't the TV that gives me HD PiP.
    "Garyunc" was talking about the cable box, and I was just pointing out that PiP does require DLB. I get the PiP with dual HD via the Vip622/722, sorry for any confusion.
     
  19. DC_SnDvl

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    I don't think the HR's can decode two video streams at the same time. That would be required for PIP.


     
  20. TheRatPatrol

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    Its been reported that the 50 inch Vizio TV can do 2 HD pictures at the same time via HDMI.

     
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