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What Happen with Gol TV

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by danny84, Aug 1, 2008.

  1. Aug 1, 2008 #1 of 90
    danny84

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    Is Not On Dish Network not more did someone know why?
     
  2. Aug 1, 2008 #2 of 90
    boba

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    GOL TV is having contract negotiation problems with DISH. DISH is using their usual negotiating method take it away from the customer. GOL TV is still available on Directv.:lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  3. Aug 1, 2008 #3 of 90
    kal915

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    And Dodger King says all of D* subs that post on E* threads are courteous. :sigh:
     
  4. Aug 1, 2008 #4 of 90
    Rebollos

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    Any chance that they will work things out?
     
  5. Aug 1, 2008 #5 of 90
    Chihuahua

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    Well, here we go again. I had an online chat with a Dish Network agent and she reported that GOL TV made what were described as unreasonable demands in exchange for continued carriage on Dish Network.

    I usually tune into GOL TV for Fifa Football Mundial, La Liga (Spain) and Bundesliga (Germany) soccer, as well as soccer from Uruguay, Ecuador, and Colombia.
     
  6. Aug 1, 2008 #6 of 90
    Rebollos

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    I am really mad about this, but you all need to know that for the Bundesliga and La Liga the 2008-09 season is the last of theirs contracts with Goltv, so maybe next year Goltv won't be carrying either one, remember what happen to Goltv last season with the Calcio when their contract expired....
     
  7. Aug 2, 2008 #7 of 90
    Rebollos

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    If you press info now at the Goltv channel it has the announcement for the Emirates Cup games, but the programming is from Fox Sports World Espanol
     
  8. Aug 2, 2008 #8 of 90
    kal915

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    The EPG has the info for all of it, but until Dish and GolTV settle it will probably still show Fox Sports
     
  9. Aug 2, 2008 #9 of 90
    kstuart

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    There are a variety of possible scenarios. GolTV recently completed a deal to be carried on one of the major cable systems. So, perhaps previously they gave Dish a special deal in return for 12 million possible viewers, and now they no longer feel they need that, so they raised their price.

    Or perhaps the cable system doesn't care what price they pay, because they just pass on the costs to the customers - and now GolTV wants Dish to pay the same (higher) price as the cable system.

    Perhaps GolTV has paid more for their programming from La Liga and Bundesliga, and so must charge more to cable and satellite, in order to break even, but Dish does not see any greater value to their customers.

    Also, note that package channels like GolTV and CNN cost Dish a certain amount per subscriber, while subscription channels like Setanta actually pay Dish a percentage of the subscription fee.

    In short, GolTV wants more $$, but Dish gets no more benefit from GolTV than before.

    It's like when the gasoline price goes up. We don't get anything more, we get the same gallon of gas, but it costs more. Our only defense is to buy less gasoline (which most of us have indeed done).

    Dish's only defense is to "buy less GolTV".

    It's a particularly poor strategy for GolTV since they have adverstisements. I hope they are telling their advertisers that they have 12 million less possible viewers as of August 1st... :rolleyes:
     
  10. GutBomb

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    Or goltv tried to re-negotiate their contract for the SAME amount as last time but dish now wants to pay less? We have no info so this is just as likely as goltv wanting more money. This is the typical Dish Network negotiation tactic. I've had many providers in the past, but never had channels removed suddenly (or warnings to remove channels such as the viacom thing a few years ago) like the crap that happens on Dish Network.
     
  11. kstuart

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    And your source for claiming that is a "typical Dish Network negotiation tactic" is what exactly ? (An odd statement after saying "we have no info", which is usually true.) In all the years I've read DBS Forums, I've never heard of any provider asking a channel to lower its price from the previous contract price. Cable and satellite channel prices only go up. Providers ask for the increase to be less.

    The only documented evidence is that over the past 12 years, cable channels have consistently tried to charge Dish Network more than other cable and satellite providers. The FCC had to make a ruling that cable channels were required to offer all providers an equal price.

    One person has reported that the Spanish Language Dish Network statement on the channel being unavailable translates as:
     
  12. grog

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    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...B96AEB-90ED-49E7-BC21-831E87BD7AFA}&dist=hppr

    Satellite Giant Dish Network Pulls Plug on GolTV
    Millions of Dish Subscribers Lose Exclusive TV Coverage of Emirates Cup and 2010 World Cup Qualifiers

    Last update: 5:56 p.m. EDT Aug. 3, 2008

    Sounds like the same story to me.
    CourtTV, Lifetime, MLB, Voom and now Citadel Communications ( Iowa stations dropped a couple of days ago ).

    Dish plays hard ball.
    Find a carriage drop from DirecTV or Cable if you can!

    Links:
    Court TV
    Jan 2, 2007

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003526304&imw=Y

    Lifetime:
    06-FEB-06
    http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-12625518_ITM

    MLB:
    http://www.dishnetwork.com/redirects/promotion/extra_innings/index.shtml

    Voom:
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9943892-1.html

    Citadel Communications:
    http://www.woi-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8772960&nav=1LFX
     
  13. Steve Mehs

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    Don't forget, Viacom, Lifetime and Disney.
     
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    DirecTV has dropped TRIO and Lifetime Real Woman.
     
  15. kstuart

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    Were those the stations that wanted a 300% fee increase for carrying their advertising-supported channels available for free OTA ?

    :rolleyes:
     
  16. grog

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    Yes you are correct.

    But here is one that has yet to surface.

    http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=87396

    Time Warner: Pay Univision Retrans Fees Or Face Consequences
    by David Goetzl, Monday, Jul 28, 2008 7:30 AM ET

    Now notice this quote:


    Wonder if Dish is about to walk away from Univision.
    At the price point Univision wants I think DirecTV could walk away as well.
    The carriage deals are really getting out of hand as of late.


     
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    I hate if Univision is dropped from Dish, they carry a lot of the Mexican soccer games, and novelas (soaps) for the wife.
     
  18. Jim5506

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    These folks are trying to kill the golden goose.
     
  19. tommiet

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    Don't miss it.... Never knew I had it! So subtract 1 from the 12 million...:)
     
  20. Haralampi

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    I guess we have to watch the "great" sport of fishing in "stunning" HD. What's next, removing the FSC so there is no soccer on E* at all?

    :mad:
     

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