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What happened to my Timers...!!!!

Discussion in 'ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum' started by mithcman333, Apr 25, 2006.

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  1. JimD

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    My experience was identical, with the addition that one regularly scheduled timer ("new" episodes of House) disappeared entirely after the recovery. I had to re-enter it. It is the only one I am aware of having lost.
     
  2. David_Levin

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    Strange. I did not have any problems. Somehow your guide download got halted or corrupted. Perhaps it's releated to time zone (time of day of update). Perhaps something with locals.

    But I'd expect a quide stream change to have effected a lot more people.
     
  3. mikec73

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    My 625 had the same problem, recorded fine Monday night then last night nothing. Wife is upset she didnt get American Idol. I checked the shedule and events lists- nothing. Kept all recordings though. Going to check for timers now and reboot.
     
  4. Bradtothebone

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    When I tried to turn off my 622 on Monday night about 10:45 Central, it didn't respond to the "off" command from the remote. I tried again, and it went off for a couple of seconds, then all the lights on the front came on and the cooling fan went into overdrive for about 15 seconds. After that, a screen came up that it was verifying satellite signal on 110, transponder 22, 1 of 5 thru 5 of 5. When that was done, it came back on and I was able to shut it off normally. I don't know if that was a normal reboot routine, since I haven't had to do one yet on this machine.

    On Tuesday, all timers fired normally. I don't know if any of this is related to problems others have had, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

    Brad
     
  5. lionsrule

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    What is the point of the main page linking this thread? To simply get us to all bitch in the same place? Where is the solution?
     
  6. Ron Barry

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    Well it looks like people are getting the timers back by a hard reboot or soft reboot. Also looks like other receivers (625) had the same issue. Wonder if 942 users saw it also. I believe there is common code between those three receivers.

    Also, given that this seem to hit a cross section of user at the same time and that it hit both OTA and non OTA users, my gut would tell me that this is stream related.

    Questions is why did it not hit all of us. I did not notice this on either of my 622s.

    As to the purpose of the link at the main page is to direct users that experience the issue to discuss it. Based on the feeback so far, looks to me that the changes in the stream confused the boxes under certain circumstances that resulted in the timer events to disappear. Also looks like a soft or hard reboot brings them back. <--- Important part of the thread and what I would call a solution to people whose timer events are still missing.

    Also remember... we are in the 622 forum so keep those rocks in your pockets. ;)
     
  7. wcswett

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    Ron, is it possible that it hit a crossection of users due to timing? I know a variety of things happen in the wee hours, and if a guide stream change happened in the middle of a guide update for some receivers, perhaps just those receivers were affected. You didn't have the problem, but I and most of the other posters are three time zones ahead of you. All the complaints seem to be from eastern and central time zones, with mountain and pacific time zones reporting no problems.

    --- Chris
     
  8. rbyers

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    I have been having a problem with OTA scheduled events disappearing with the overnight guide update. We've been discussing this problem in the thread
    "Help with setting up schedules?" (sorry, don't know how to make this a link).

    Until this week, I've been able to set OTA timers for 'tonight's' programs. But, I did not get my scheduled recording of either Monday or Tuesday "CSI:Miami". I have only had problems with OTA channels. Last night I set a timer to record CSI:Miami on OTA. I checked to see that the show appeared in the schedule. At 9 pm I turned off the TV and went to bed. Just checked the box. It did not record. This appears to be a problem that is getting progressively worse. When I first got the 622 ... not that long ago ... I could set timers to record OTA programs on future dates. That stopped a week or so ago. Now, I can't set the box to record an OTA event on the same night ... unless I leave the 622 ON.

    Ideas... Hope someone at dish is aware of this problem and is working on it.
     
  9. Rogueone

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    I have tons of timers, and I lost 2 Monday night. I have Prison Break and 24 set for Mondays, on OTA Fox, and both failed to fire. I had checked probably on Sunday night to make SURE they were still active and planned for recording, because LAST Monday (the first for my 622 being able to see HD programming) it also failed to record those 2 shows! So now I've missed 2 weeks of PB and 24 (on that note, anyone by chance have those still and could burn a couple dvd copies for me?)

    I found out the monday shows were missed Tuesday afternoon, and also noticed the lack of info in the guide, did the auto update that I was prompted for when trying to advance the guide view, and all my timers seemed to be there, EXCEPT the PB and 24 timers. Why did it have to screw up the 2 must watch serial shows where you're lost when you miss an episode, and especially back to back ones :(

    sounds like we need keep an eye on the guide and make sure it's updating as it should every day. As for the reboot question, no I haven't rebooted, yes i turn the box off after using it.
     
  10. DAG

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    I didn't say any counter increments, just that counter #38 show the time of the last FSCK which is what a scheduled download does...cause 1.

    The bug affected the timers and everyting that would have been associated with them in the "schedule" views. Previously recorded events were still present.

    OTA is hooked up.

    Dual mode.
     
  11. johnnyd1023

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    My 942 is working fine !:) :) :)
     
  12. Gargy

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    My 721 seemed to have problems starting last week. I lost all previous recordings on the PVR, all timers were gone, PVR functions would not work after reboots, and it would lockup all the time. I thought the unit was just dead. I called dish on Friday last week and talked to them they decided I needed a new receiver. So I went ahead and scheduled a 622 install. Meanwhile they offered to send me a refurb'd 721 for free to get me by for the next month. Needless to say on a whim I went and turned on my 721 just now and it's working just fine with all my recordings back now. This is strange.
     
  13. djc

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    My 622 did the same thing last night. However, my Monday timers did fire normally. I noticed it last night (Tuesday) when a 10PM timer did not fire. I was shocked to see that I lost all my timers. However, I did not panic (too much):eek2: and after trying several things, a powerbutton (soft?) reboot did the job.

    Any ideas what caused this? I just replaced a VERY unreliable DVR with the 622 and thought my troubles were over...guess not yet :(

    Dom
     
  14. bavaria72

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    Just got back in town. All my timers are in place and fired/firing correctly. Have OTA, running single, but I do have all 4 sats (both 129 and 61.5). Interesting.
     
  15. lujan

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    I just had a strange timer issue as well. I set (through the guide) to record "Criminal Minds" on the local CBS OTA station at 8:00pm tonight (4/26/2006). It was about 8:06pm and I noticed that the red recording light was not on. I immediately went to the DVR screen and nothing was recording. I then went to the Schedule screen and the timer was gone. This is the first time this has happened to me and now know what people are talking about in this thread. I will contact technical support to report it now.
     
  16. Moridin

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    Ditto. Numerous timers fired properly during the period in question, and I saw no loss of extended guide data.
     
  17. Chris Blount

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  18. David_Levin

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    Thanks for the update, Chris.

    Hopefully the programmers will address this....

    The boxes should be able to recover from this event (retry the download and/or use the guide from the prior download).
     
  19. Rob Glasser

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    Funny, I actually had a missed timer on my 942 on Sunday, but not my 622. =) the light wasn't on, but when I went into the schedule and it listed it as currently recording, but it wasn't. After a reboot it kicked back in. Now back to the topic of Vip622 timer issues.
     
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