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What I hate about DTV (rant)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Red Orc, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. Feb 13, 2012 #81 of 128
    trh

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    I've only seen this boxes where utilities are underground. Municiple hearing? I don't know but I think it was the developer who when he designed and built this community had this technology installed. All the boxes I have seen are between the sidewalk and the street, so much closer to the street. And we also have Bellsouth telephone boxes and power transformers in various yards. But it is cleaner than having poles run through the subdivision. IMO.
     
  2. Feb 13, 2012 #82 of 128
    trh

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    I'm just guessing here, but I don't think you have one dedicated coax that runs from Comcast directly to your house. There will be splitters and probably amplifiers located on the poles to get that signal to your house.
     
  3. Feb 13, 2012 #83 of 128
    Red Orc

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    Maybe it's one of the other poles?
    Nearly all of my neighbors seem to have either DTV or DISH. Maybe they don't need as many boxes if they don't have as many customers in a given area?
     
  4. Feb 13, 2012 #84 of 128
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    Why would anyone hate SWM? SWM is sweet if it wasn't for that it would require a home run to all my DVR's for the 2nd tuner since you wouldn't be able to use the already ran RG6 for two tuners. DECA is also awesome, I haven't had 1 hiccup with it and it works flawless for MRV I love it. I was part of the beta for MRV and unless you were directly hard wired in MRV sucked. Powerline was terrible & so was wireless.

    As far as tech support goes, I avoid calling any kind of tech support unless I absolutely have to. Most of the time when I call it's because I have already done everything in my power to fix a problem so it's usually more of a complex issue which makes it way more frustrating calling tech support. You gotta remember most people calling tech support are morons who half the time don't know how to switch tv inputs.

    I'm not sure what kinda system your looking for but DECA & SWM are absolutely fantastic.
     
  5. Feb 13, 2012 #85 of 128
    dsw2112

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    I think you missed the point. The big green box was a bit of "back at you." And no, not everyone has one, but not everyone has DECA either. DECA can be removed; my comcast box in the yard can't be...

    While you dislike equipment in the house, some dislike equipment outside more. The point -- you can complain about any technology; you just happen to dislike the D* implementation. To make your argument true, you would also have to acknowledge other's opinions of "shortfalls" in Comcast, Dish, etc. To not do so turns your argument into a fallacy.

    What I didn't see is your response to
    If you remove your DECA your setup would simply be a single coax at each receiver (with the SWM PI of course.) If you decide to go back to a legacy setup you will require a multiswitch (which you've mentioned doesn't bother you), but also B Band converters at each receiver that's not a Hx23. The B Band converters look just like a DECA.
     
  6. Feb 13, 2012 #86 of 128
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    It's also important to note when moving a DVR on a legacy system that the new location requires those two coaxial cables. Many homes are not wired in this manner, but if yours is -- great! For many, SWM circumvents the need to homerun a second coaxial cable when moving a DVR.
     
  7. Feb 13, 2012 #87 of 128
    Richierich

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    Red Orc, this is from an Email from Ellen Filipiak who is Senior Vice President for Customer Service.

    "Above all else, we strive to bring you the best selection of movies, sporting events and television channels. Annually, the owners of these TV channels increase the fees they charge to DIRECTV for the right to broadcast their content. As a result, DIRECTV must periodically adjust the pricing and channel lineups of some of our programming packages so that we can keep these channels in your package."

    This explains why Directv has to increase Prices and why some Channels are still in SD instead of HD because Directv can't negotiate a reasonable rate for the HD Version.
     
  8. Feb 13, 2012 #88 of 128
    Red Orc

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    I just ordered an extra long ethernet cable yesterday. I'm just waiting for it to ship :)
    No a multiswitch really wouldn't bother me because it's outside.
    Would the B Band converter have to be plugged in?
    If it has to be plugged in I wouldn't want it. If it can just be tucked behind the DVR I really wouldn't care.
    No one has said anything about the plusses or minuses of DISH so I can't comment on them.
    The only negative any one has given about Comcast is a "big green box" which I don't have.
    If someone were to post a negative about Comcast that actually applies to the installation I had I would be more than happy to comment.

    I have to admit I was kind of blowing off the posters who didn't like having equipment outside. Sorry about that guys.
    I concede that point. Some would rather have equipment in the house ,some would rather have equipment outside.

    Also the reason I was irritated about having more things to plug in is because at any given moment I might have the following plugged in in that room :
    18650 battery charger ,bluetooth headset charger ,Verizon phone charger ,Sprint phone charger ,PS3 ,DVR ,SWiM ,alarm clock ,blu ray player ,TV powered speakers for TV ,Ryobi 18V battery charger ,coffee maker ,cordless phone ,powered toothbrush charger ,Comcast phone/internet modem ,wireless modem ,laptop ,PC ,powered speakers for PC ,monitor ,printer ,& scanner plus whatever other miscellaneous junk I might need to plug in temporarily.
     
  9. Feb 13, 2012 #89 of 128
    Red Orc

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    I'm beginning to wonder if I should start another post titled "What I love about DTV" so I can post something positive for a change. [​IMG]
     
  10. Feb 13, 2012 #90 of 128
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    Complaining is not a bad thing :) I have done my fair share of complaining about D*. Ironically my first post around here is was why isn't SWM used in residential installs (this was back when SWM was used in MDU's only.) I got jumped on pretty hard, and was told that was never going to happen :sure:
     
  11. Feb 13, 2012 #91 of 128
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    No, they hang off the back of the receivers just like the white DECA's. You do need two BBC's on a DVR (one for each tuner.)

    You can move the SWM PI to a location that's more convenient. It just needs a power outlet, and coax to feed power to the Dish LNB. If you wish to do this just ask, and we can walk you through the specifics related to your setup.
     
  12. Feb 13, 2012 #92 of 128
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    Near the curb. I just searched but couldn't find a picture of one online, which was surprising -- maybe I just didn't come up with the correct keywords.
     
  13. Feb 13, 2012 #93 of 128
    Mike Greer

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    Wow – I’m having a hard time beating up on DirecTV here… Red Orc – I’m very critical of DirecTV most of the time. They do have some serious issues, in my opinion anyway, in the engineering department but your rants seem a little extreme to me!

    Sure some of the cables are a pain, some of the CSRs leave much to be desired but wow – that is quite a rant you having going on there!

    Best of luck!
     
  14. Feb 13, 2012 #94 of 128
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    They are sometimes called street cabinets. This isn't for cable, but I think they basically look the same, though some are larger.

    http://stopthecap.com/2011/07/27/at...rse-cabinets-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco/

    This is the inside of one for Virgin Media in the UK
    http://chriswoods.co.uk/2010/01/photos-inside-a-virgin-media-cable-street-cabinet/
     
  15. Feb 13, 2012 #95 of 128
    Mike Bertelson

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    I believe you’re making it more difficult than it needs to be. I assume by moving/plugging in SWiM you mean the Power Inserter (PI). There’s no need to move it. The PI needs to be connected to the SWiM Module but as long as it’s properly installed it doesn’t matter where it is. Just because you move a receiver that has the PI in line with it doesn’t mean you have to move the PI. You just need to disconnect the coax from the DECA attached to the receiver (or directly from the receiver if you have an H24/25, HR24, HR34) and plug it in somewhere else that has coax. It really is simple as that.

    It’s the same thing for the Broadband DECA. Once it’s correctly installed there is no reason to move it just because you move a receiver.

    Neither the Broadband DECA nor the Power Inserter need be inline with a receiver/DVR. All you need to do is have the installer put the PI and Broadband DECA where you want them so they’re not inline with a receiver/DVR. Then moving a receiver will be just as easy as it was with you cable company.

    Here is some good info. If you read through the threads that interest you you’ll find all the info you need.

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=117744

    Mike
     
  16. Feb 13, 2012 #96 of 128
    Rich

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    Targeting you? I don't even know who you are. Sorry if I offended you.

    Rich
     
  17. Feb 13, 2012 #97 of 128
    Red Orc

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    I think I just needed to vent...
     
  18. Feb 13, 2012 #98 of 128
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    Is this in a development, possibly? It occurred to me that perhaps when infrastructure was put in, a box was set in to allow for (whatever)—cable or FIOS—connections were needed.

    Is it possible they are not really Comcast boxes, although they may be used only by them in a particular neighborhood?
     
  19. Feb 13, 2012 #99 of 128
    Laxguy

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    Ah, thanks. So they could be for phone, cable, FIOS or all three. Could be installed by a municipality doing undergrounding, or a developer doing same. Basically a distribution hub, no?
    Could even feed a cell tower with power. Some might be built for electric. (?)
     
  20. Rtm

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    Just rip the SWM out and throw out the DECA(s). Call and ask for a LNB dish.

    Seriously all the stuff works and you shouldn't have to touch it ever, figure out what you're going to do when you get a new receiver not now.
     

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