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What is involved in upgrading from SWM 8 to SWM 16

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by StephenJC, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. StephenJC

    StephenJC Legend

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    Thinking of replacing 2 HD boxes with a Genie and client. That will leave me with 2 HD DVRs and a Genie on my current SWM 8. Is it just a matter of swapping out the 4 port SWM 8 with a SWM 16 SWM. No new cables needed since receiver count and location staying the same? Will DirecTv allow this as a self install?
     
  2. HarleyD

    HarleyD Hall Of Fame

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    No new cabling is required.

    The same four cables from the dish connect to the corresponding four inputs on the SWM16.

    You will have two SWM outputs, each of which will support up to 8 tuners. You can keep your existing splitter and cabling on SWM1 and connect the Genie to SWM2.

    It is very much a drop-in replacement.
     
  3. damondlt

    damondlt New Member

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    When I asked if Directv would just send me a C31 they said no. They claimed a Tech has to come out, So I would Imagine same for the HR34/44.
     
  4. StephenJC

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    I only have 1 cable from the dish to SWM, then a cable running to each receiver.
     
  5. sigma1914

    sigma1914 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    Then you'll need the 4 output LNB.
     
  6. HarleyD

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    Then what you are calling a SWM is actually a splitter, not a SWM8. The SWM8 is integrated into the LNB on your dish.

    Now you're into a more complex installation.

    New LNB on the dish.
    3 additional cables from the LNB to the new SWM16 unit.

    From there you need a cable from your existing splitter to the SWM1 output on the SWM16 and again, the Genie can be connected to the other SWM output.
     
  7. StephenJC

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    The dish is 50 ft from the house. I buried the cable a few years ago after the installer left so that the install would be free. Seems like too much work to run more cable up to the house and bury it. I may just give up one of the HR24s.
     
  8. StephenJC

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    What is running from the dish to the house (buried) is two cables glued together. Can you work a SWM 16 with 2 cables from the LNB to the splitter?
     
  9. sigma1914

    sigma1914 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    No.
     
  10. dishinitout

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    You could put the SWM 16 out at the dish then use the two cables as the output from the SWM 16 to receivers. That would work. However, typically would advise against the SWM16 being outside but in this case may be unavoidable.
     
  11. StephenJC

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    I thought the SWM16 was in the LNB?
     
  12. sigma1914

    sigma1914 DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    No, this is a SWM16 setup...

    [​IMG]
     
  13. longrider

    longrider DIRECTV A-Team DBSTalk Club

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    No, the only integrated unit is the SWM8. Putting the SWM16 at the pole is a viable option but I would protect it from hte weather
     
  14. StephenJC

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    Sounds like more if a headache than it is worth. I will just return one of the 2 HR24s so that my tuner count does not exceed 8.
     
  15. studechip

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    A SWM8 is a separate switch. A SWM lnb will support 8 tuners with a SWS8 splitter.
     
  16. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    It isn't the size of the splitter as a 4-way supports 8 tuners too if they're DVRs.
     
  17. Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator

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    I just went through the same upgrade. You either have to do a self install, or have a DirecTV tech do it. The only way I was able to get the DirecTV tech out here is have the receiver already on my account. They won't do it unless they bring you a receiver that will tip you over 8 channels or you already have one.

    It's can be a bit of a cluster. I ended up just communicating with the tech directly because every time I called DirecTV they would give me the runaround.

    The tech replaced my LNB and put the swim 16 on the side of my house with the two splitters as shown in the diagram above. The power inserter also needs to be replaced with the 29 V version.
     
  18. StephenJC

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    Was it expensive? Did you need to cash out your 401K to get it done? Is it included as part of the usual $50 install?
     
  19. Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator

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    I cancelled the $50 install. The tech charged me the cost of the SWiM 16 (same price you would find on say solidsignal.com). Don't know how he recouped his labor costs. Don't want to know.
     
  20. studechip

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    Yes, I understand. My point was that there isn't a swm8 built into a swm lnb per se, it's a separate switch.
     

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