I had ST w/SF for a couple years but last year I let the wife talk me out of it. I am not going to make that mistake again. I want to order ST w/SF but I am only willing to pay the auto renewal price w/SF for $0. Could somebody tell me what you are paying for auto renewal? Wasn't it $230 or so? I can get it on the website for $250... but want to save all I can. Thanks.