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When Will L211 Spool? - TODAY! (Tuesday 12/7)

Discussion in 'Other HD Receiver Support Forum (811, 921, 942)' started by Mark Lamutt, Nov 19, 2004.

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  1. rcarmer

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    Well said Bob. I wouldn't care if there was an update every day. At least we would see an attempt to fix something! Incredibly poor service.
     
  2. jsanders

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    I'm pretty sure you would care if you got an update every day! There are some very good reasons that all of the beta builds don't make it through the pipeline to the consumer.
     
  3. BobMurdoch

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    I didn't say every day....... I just meant that it would be better to get a blue line fix one week then measure the CSR calls, then do the OTA fix the next week etc..... Instead of this mega release that KEEPS getting bumped because of beta feedback which then stalls the whole shebang........
     
  4. Mark Lamutt

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    Actually, Bob, the blue line fix IS what is stalling the process.

    If the world were a perfect place, and the code was completely modular so that none of it affected any other piece of code, then a weekly release might be feasible. They'd still be on the monthly release schedule here if it wasn't for the damn driver. But at least, they haven't been sitting on their hands, waiting for it to get resolved and not doing anything else. They had the perfect excuse for not adding in the additional features that you're going to see here shortly, but they didn't take it. They went ahead with it, and to me from my perspective, that's a positive thing.

    Weekly releases would cut beta test time down to about 24 hours. You have no idea how bad that would have been if that'd been SOP.

    Just my rant from the inside looking out...
     
  5. BobMurdoch

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    OK, I'm usually one of the patient users (and I've been accused of being an apologiost or pom pom waver by many of the vitriolic D* fans), but they've had a year to get this thing right and they seem like they aren't making any headway to getting this thing at least stable. Maybe you are seeing more from the inside, but out here they are still coming off as inept (saying that they are discontinued and chopping the price in half didn't help either for those of us who paid full price for a unit that looks like it will be soon pushed to the failed "Dishplayer-esque" heap of products that held promise but got kicked to the curb... this one is even worse since they ONLY started shipping these things in quantity last quarter.... Dishplayer had about 2.5 years before they killed it)
     
  6. Rodney

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    Mark,

    Any idea when the driver to repair the blue line problem will be ready?
     
  7. jsanders

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    Actually, you can still pay full price for one today if you want! I saw them at Fry's electronics in stock for $999, I verified the price in their computer too. I argued with the sales guy for a few minutes that he was ripping people off with that price, he didn't believe any brick and mortar store would sell it for that price. I sure hope nobody actually buys one of those.
     
  8. P Smith

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    I got a word from my source - the L210 version removed from stream and Dish testing real beta version now.
     
  9. Dec 1, 2004 #129 of 218
    jsanders

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    Could you elaborate on what that means? If L210 was removed from the "stream", how does it get to the beta testing units?
     
  10. Dec 1, 2004 #130 of 218
    mwsmith2

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    In my short time here, I have learned to ignore posts by P Smith, as they are always cryptic and he never answers questions about them. Furthermore his "news" is usually shortly refuted as being incorrect by the real folks here.

    Michael
     
  11. Dec 1, 2004 #131 of 218
    Mark Lamutt

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    That is the question of the hour...I'd give you an answer if I had one...I begin to see the frustrations that Dish had with Microsoft over the dishplayer.

    P Smith's "news" means that there's a beta version being tested that supercedes L210, which was also a beta version.
     
  12. Dec 1, 2004 #132 of 218
    tahoerob

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    L211????? :)

    I guess we would need to start a new thread!
     
  13. Dec 1, 2004 #133 of 218
    SpenceJT

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    how about we leave our options open and call it "L2xx"? :lol:
     
  14. Dec 1, 2004 #134 of 218
    deweybrunner

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    Why can't all of us who do not have a blue line problem benefit with all the rest of the update, and release the blue line problem later? We could all be waiting an indefinite time til this gets worked out. Release the "blue Line" update later!
     
  15. Dec 1, 2004 #135 of 218
    Rodney

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    Everyone, those that have and those that don't have the blue line problem, would benefit from L210 if it was released today.
     
  16. Dec 1, 2004 #136 of 218
    Mark Lamutt

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    Dewey - that's the current plan as I know it. Hence why the 2 added features are in there now. There is a real sense of urgency to get this out to you, so it'll be there just as soon as it's good to go. And if the driver is fixed, then great. If not, there's next time. If you were to get the version that I have right now, you'd be saying "Damn, they were so close with this, why didn't they wait a couple of more days and get the last piece of it right?"
     
  17. Dec 1, 2004 #137 of 218
    garyhesq

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    You guys heard it here first. Right from the horses mouth. It will be ready in a few days :lol:
     
  18. Dec 1, 2004 #138 of 218
    Bradtothebone

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    Yes, but did he mean "days" in the modern sense, or in the biblical sense? ;)

    Brad
     
  19. Dec 1, 2004 #139 of 218
    jsanders

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    Well, since they are writing code, I guess you could call them "creative days". The account in Genesis says the world was created in six days, this is of course figurative, because there is no way for a human to measure a day if the sun and the earth haven't been created yet. Hence the term creative days.

    The problem with creative days is that they weren't measured in a human frame of reference, we don't know how long they were.

    So, by that estimate, we really don't know how long these days will take, we don't know when the release will be. Not that the creation of the heavens and the earth can be compared to the creaton of an HD PVR, but I think you get the picture.... :nono2:
     
  20. Dec 1, 2004 #140 of 218
    Rodney

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    Actually this part of his statement appears that imply that they will get it right in a couple more days, which would be Friday.
     
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