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Where Should I Buy My HD DVR From?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by dnamertz, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. Mar 7, 2010 #1 of 18
    dnamertz

    dnamertz Cool Member

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    I'm about to upgrade my DirecTv service to an HD-DVR, but I'm not sure if I should order the unit from DirecTv or from Best Buy, or Costco. Here is what I've found from all three options:

    1. Best Buy is selling the HR22 for $199
    2. My local Costco doesn't appear to sell DirecTv units off the shelf (though I'm sure they used to at one point). The only people at Costco who deal with the DirecTv receiver sales were the people at the Cell Phone kiosk, but all they had was a DirecTv catalog and they said they didn't actually have the units in the store. But they were offering the HR23 (I believe) for $189.
    3. DirecTv gave me an offer of $99 (which the guy said was $100 off the $199 price). But he said he could not tell me for sure which model # I would get. He said it could possibly be the HR21 (the 320 GB unit) or the HR21 Pro or HR22 (both 500 GB units) depending on what they have in stock. He said that almost everything they have in stock now are 500 GB units...but I guess it's no guarantee.

    Before I make a decision, I'd like to know what the difference is between the HR21, HR21 Pro, HR22 and HR23. Plus, for those who have ordered an HD-DVR directly from DirecTv recently...what model they send you?
     
  2. Mar 7, 2010 #2 of 18
    say-what

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    If you order from DirecTV, you could get an HR20, HR21, HR22 or HR23 - the HR23 is the least likely unit to get as those appear to have been a limited run.

    If you get an HR20 or HR21 (not pro), they're likely to be refurbs and the HR22 could be either new or refurb.

    The HR20 has built-in ATSC tuners (digital OTA) while the others do not. For the HR21, 22 and 23, DIrecTV sells an add-on tuenr, the AM21 for about $50.

    The HR20 and 21 record about 50 hours mpeg4 HD while the HR22 and 23 record about 100 hours mpeg4 HD.

    All units other than the HR23 need the bbc's if you're not on a SWiM system - i.e. you're using a basic multiswitch like the Zinwell WB68.

    The HR21-pro was the only unit that you could "buy" at the retail level. Any unit you get at DirecTV, Best Buy or any other retailer will be considered a leased unit - the price you pay is the "advanced lease" fee. Owned units will typically cost $350-400 new.

    You can see the first looks for all the units here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=117744
     
  3. Mar 7, 2010 #3 of 18
    dsw2112

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    What kind of dish and receivers do you have now? If this is your first HD upgrade you will likely need a new dish, including new cables runs and possibly a multiswitch. Going through D* will give you all of the above (at the cost of a 2 year commitment of course...) That plus the $99 HDDVR cost may be worth it to you...
     
  4. Mar 7, 2010 #4 of 18
    dnamertz

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    I currently have a DirecTv w/Tivo DVR that I got when I signed up with DirecTv 5 years ago (back when they offered the TiVo service). I'll be moving this unit into the bedroom. This is my first HD upgrade, and the guy at D* did say I would need a new dish (he didn't mention a multiswitch...what would that be for?). The $99 fee he quoted me included the HD-DVR and installation, but he said the installation would also be free if I bought the unit from a store.
     
  5. Mar 7, 2010 #5 of 18
    say-what

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    You'd do best to get the HD Upgrade through DirecTV - it will be cheaper for you.

    You only need a multiswitch if you use more than 4 tuners with the basic dish - with the SWiM Line dish, it's 8 tuners, but your old DirecTIVO wouldn't be compatible, so you'd need the regular dish.
     
  6. Mar 7, 2010 #6 of 18
    dnamertz

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    What is an "add-on tuner" needed for?

    Can you explain this also? I'm new to some of this, so I'm not sure about most of the terminology.
     
  7. Mar 7, 2010 #7 of 18
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    Installation most likely would not be free if you obtain a receiver from a 3rd party.
     
  8. Mar 7, 2010 #8 of 18
    say-what

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    If you use an external antenna for local television reception via your OTA Antenna, you'll want the OTA tuners.


    Simple explanation is that a BBC is a Broad Band Converter that is needed with the HR20, 21 and 22 to receive the HD Signals for the new HD Channels. It's just a dongle that attaches to the SAT input before you connect the SAT cable.
     
  9. Mar 7, 2010 #9 of 18
    dnamertz

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    I made the point of asking the D* customer service guy this, and he said it would be free even if I bought it from a 3rd party because I'm a "loyal customer".
     
  10. RobertE

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    Good luck with that.
     
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  12. dnamertz

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    Yes it would be cheaper. I just don't know if I like not knowing which model I'm going to get (and whether it might be refurbished).

    If I decide to but from a store, would I be better off with the HR22 or the HR23 (assuming they are about the same price)?
     
  13. The Merg

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    The only difference is that the HR23's do not require BBC's as they have wide-band tuners installed.

    - Merg
     
  14. carl6

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    Either the HR22 or HR23 is going to be pretty much equivalent (other than the BBC requirement noted above). Chances are good you will only find one model available at any given store (I would not expect to have a choice).
     
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    Best Buy....use & get reward zone points.
     
  16. dnamertz

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    So does anyone think it's worth it to pay $99 more to know for sure I'll get an HR22 or HR23, or take the chance I might get an HR21 for $99 less?
     
  17. hikeraz

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    Go with DirecTV and use the money you save to buy an 1TB eSata external drive to compensate for the smaller 320GB drive, if that is the model you get.
     
  18. dsw2112

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    Upside to buying yourself - get the exact receiver you want

    Downside to buying yourself - pay more $$$ and you may have to fight with D* to honor the free dish upgrade you mentioned. I've seen people post success with this and I've seen people post extreme frustration....

    I "think" most of those "in the know" would recommend you go through D* for this one...
     

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